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onkatt

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:41 am
Post subject: 99 grand prix gtp 3.8 wont stay running HELP
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pulled car to the end of the drive way and it died tried to start it again,
it started for about 2 seconds and died again. we replaced the fuel pump,
fuel preasure regulator and the fuel pump and $400.00 later it still wont
start. the psi reading is supposed to be 48-55 and it is till we start the
car then it drops to 25 then slowly drops to 18 where it dies. we are at
our wits end someone please help!!!!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:42 am
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 00:41:58 -0500, "onkatt" <onkatt69.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com>
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>pulled car to the end of the drive way and it died tried to start it again,
>it started for about 2 seconds and died again. we replaced the fuel pump,
>fuel preasure regulator and the fuel pump and $400.00 later it still wont
>start. the psi reading is supposed to be 48-55 and it is till we start the
>car then it drops to 25 then slowly drops to 18 where it dies. we are at
>our wits end someone please help!!!!

Possibly a clogged or constricted fuel line between the tank and the
pump or the pickup in the tank. Somewhere downstream of your pressure
gauge. While the car is sitting, the pump is able to build up
adequate pressure, but, once the engine is started, it can't push/pull
fuel through the system fast enough to keep up the pressure.

Tom S.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:55 am
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onkatt wrote:
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> pulled car to the end of the drive way and it died tried to start it again,
> it started for about 2 seconds and died again. we replaced the fuel pump,
> fuel preasure regulator and the fuel pump and $400.00 later it still wont
> start. the psi reading is supposed to be 48-55 and it is till we start the
> car then it drops to 25 then slowly drops to 18 where it dies. we are at
> our wits end someone please help!!!!

Assuming both filters are new, I'd ohm out the pump ground wire.
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M.C. Tee

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:55 pm
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sounds more like the theftlock



"onkatt" <onkatt69.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> pulled car to the end of the drive way and it died tried to start it
> again,
> it started for about 2 seconds and died again. we replaced the fuel pump,
> fuel preasure regulator and the fuel pump and $400.00 later it still wont
> start. the psi reading is supposed to be 48-55 and it is till we start the
> car then it drops to 25 then slowly drops to 18 where it dies. we are at
> our wits end someone please help!!!!
>
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stacey451

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:47 pm
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I have a problem very much like this. It is with a 96 grand am 2.4 twin
cam. will crank and run for about 2to3 seconds then dies if you turn the
key ll the way off and recrank it does the ame thing. How do you reset the
theftlock system.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:55 pm
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"onkatt" <onkatt69.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> pulled car to the end of the drive way and it died tried to start it
> again,
> it started for about 2 seconds and died again. we replaced the fuel pump,
> fuel preasure regulator and the fuel pump and $400.00 later it still wont
> start. the psi reading is supposed to be 48-55 and it is till we start the
> car then it drops to 25 then slowly drops to 18 where it dies. we are at
> our wits end someone please help!!!!

While it doesn't happen very often be sure to checked for a blocked exhaust.
Just have someone at the exhaust when the car starts and make sure something
is coming out. Had a much older Ford with similar symptoms with a totally
blocked catalytic converter.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:58 pm
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I'm having the same problem!In testing if on the fuse relay panel you
jumper the f/pmp spd cont relay between pin 30 and 87a it should start and
stay running. still testing to find out why i need to do this. but this
counts out cat. conveter and fuel pump, as this is the fuel pump speed
controll relay (car speed ie. if in park or neut. can't over rev eng.)will
post findings any help out there?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:38 pm
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From looking at the diagram my guess is that your fuel pump resistor is open
circuited.

According to the service manual here is where it's located:
Mounted to the outside of the right front frame rail forward of the front
wheel


"jdtech1" <vhaller RemoveThis @peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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> I'm having the same problem!In testing if on the fuse relay panel you
> jumper the f/pmp spd cont relay between pin 30 and 87a it should start and
> stay running. still testing to find out why i need to do this. but this
> counts out cat. conveter and fuel pump, as this is the fuel pump speed
> controll relay (car speed ie. if in park or neut. can't over rev eng.)will
> post findings any help out there?
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:13 am
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I searched the archives and found a listing on 2005-july-05 under 2000 GTP
runs 5 seconds then die tells you where the resistor is and how to fix.
pulled mine off it was bad did ohms test on it and keep getting random
values so siver surfer is right. Thanks everyone I will pick one up
tommorrow
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M.C. Tee

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:55 am
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most gm's its turn the key to the on position (not start) for 600 seconds
(10 mins)



"stacey451" <steinhauer451 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a problem very much like this. It is with a 96 grand am 2.4 twin
> cam. will crank and run for about 2to3 seconds then dies if you turn the
> key ll the way off and recrank it does the ame thing. How do you reset the
> theftlock system.
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:34 pm
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BINGO!! Right on MC. your solution was the fix I needed. Thank you Thank
you. turned the key to on and waited 10 min then tried cranking it and it
started right up and kept running. thanks a million!!
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M.C. Tee

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:55 am
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n/p


"stacey451" <steinhauer451.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> BINGO!! Right on MC. your solution was the fix I needed. Thank you Thank
> you. turned the key to on and waited 10 min then tried cranking it and it
> started right up and kept running. thanks a million!!
>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:01 pm
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HAD THE SAME PROBLEM SILVER SUFER WAS RIGHT REPLACED RESISTOR AND CAR
STARTED RIGHT UP THANKS
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:48 pm
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"onkatt" <onkatt69 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote

Yet more BS from a talkaboutautos.com drama queen.
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