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Since: Jun 28, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:23 pm
Post subject: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking
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I went in today to get rear parking brakes fixed... (at the dealership)
surprise not a recall item because I have a automatic transmission, not
manual. Exact same parking brakes, but since no one has died yet from
the parking brake failure on a automatic transmission its not covered!
Anyway the almost $300 repair job worked fine, I have better parking
brakes than new. Why do I care? I park on hills a lot and just somehow
can't bring myself to trust the parking pawl in the transmission.
So since the brakes are working so good, I thought I'd jack up the rear
tire to make sure they did not have them sooo tight they were
dragging. They were ok, but I did notice a BIG hole (maybe 1 x 2
inches) rusted in both rear brake backing plates... I could look in and
see something that looked like brake parts!!
I realize this is a 6 year old truck, but I've never seen so much rust
on everything underneath, brake, fuel lines and these brakes.
So should I just get some galvanized or stainless sheet metal and
patch up the hole, complain (to who?) or trade off the truck? |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:18 pm
Post subject: Re: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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There is no little adjustment hole, like a real drum brake. You have
to do a trial and error remove and reinstall the rear brake disk /
parking drum after every adustment. No the holes were down low and I'm
upset because it looks like dirt, water, snow, salt and whatever can
now get inside these holes. Ie: another $300 repair job a year or so
from now. I'm thinking I can silicone seal some stainless or galv.
steel over the holes??
Eugene Nine wrote:
> MachineShop.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:
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> > I went in today to get rear parking brakes fixed... (at the dealership)
> > surprise not a recall item because I have a automatic transmission, not
> > manual. Exact same parking brakes, but since no one has died yet from
> > the parking brake failure on a automatic transmission its not covered!
> > Anyway the almost $300 repair job worked fine, I have better parking
> > brakes than new. Why do I care? I park on hills a lot and just somehow
> > can't bring myself to trust the parking pawl in the transmission.
> >
> > So since the brakes are working so good, I thought I'd jack up the rear
> > tire to make sure they did not have them sooo tight they were
> > dragging. They were ok, but I did notice a BIG hole (maybe 1 x 2
> > inches) rusted in both rear brake backing plates... I could look in and
> > see something that looked like brake parts!!
> >
> > I realize this is a 6 year old truck, but I've never seen so much rust
> > on everything underneath, brake, fuel lines and these brakes.
> > So should I just get some galvanized or stainless sheet metal and
> > patch up the hole, complain (to who?) or trade off the truck?
> was it a hole rusted or just the edges of the little hole used to loosen the
> adjuster? |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:16 pm
Post subject: Re: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Eugene this is the parking brake, the "real" rear brake is disk. The
parking brake drum is on the back of the rear disk brake rotor. The
cable operated parking brake shoes are on the back plate, like a real
drum brake would have. Not a good thing as the adjustment is as I have
described... that is why I took to dealership, so any recalls or claims
for payment for repairs would not be disputed by GM.
Eugene Nine wrote:
> MachineShop DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
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> > There is no little adjustment hole, like a real drum brake. You have
> > to do a trial and error remove and reinstall the rear brake disk /
> > parking drum after every adustment. No the holes were down low and I'm
> > upset because it looks like dirt, water, snow, salt and whatever can
> > now get inside these holes. Ie: another $300 repair job a year or so
> > from now. I'm thinking I can silicone seal some stainless or galv.
> > steel over the holes??
> >
>
> Every real drum brake I've seen had that hole at the bottom, no trial and
> error needed. >> Stay informed about: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:47 pm
Post subject: Re: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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MachineShop RemoveThis @hotmail.com wrote:
> I went in today to get rear parking brakes fixed... (at the dealership)
> surprise not a recall item because I have a automatic transmission, not
> manual. Exact same parking brakes, but since no one has died yet from
> the parking brake failure on a automatic transmission its not covered!
> Anyway the almost $300 repair job worked fine, I have better parking
> brakes than new. Why do I care? I park on hills a lot and just somehow
> can't bring myself to trust the parking pawl in the transmission.
>
> So since the brakes are working so good, I thought I'd jack up the rear
> tire to make sure they did not have them sooo tight they were
> dragging. They were ok, but I did notice a BIG hole (maybe 1 x 2
> inches) rusted in both rear brake backing plates... I could look in and
> see something that looked like brake parts!!
>
> I realize this is a 6 year old truck, but I've never seen so much rust
> on everything underneath, brake, fuel lines and these brakes.
> So should I just get some galvanized or stainless sheet metal and
> patch up the hole, complain (to who?) or trade off the truck?
was it a hole rusted or just the edges of the little hole used to loosen the
adjuster? >> Stay informed about: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:18 pm
Post subject: Re: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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MachineShop DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
> There is no little adjustment hole, like a real drum brake. You have
> to do a trial and error remove and reinstall the rear brake disk /
> parking drum after every adustment. No the holes were down low and I'm
> upset because it looks like dirt, water, snow, salt and whatever can
> now get inside these holes. Ie: another $300 repair job a year or so
> from now. I'm thinking I can silicone seal some stainless or galv.
> steel over the holes??
>
Every real drum brake I've seen had that hole at the bottom, no trial and
error needed. >> Stay informed about: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:39 am
Post subject: Re: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Same on my 2000 Silverado. I was going to change them when I replaced the
rear pads but you need to pull the rear axels to do it.
Al
<MachineShop.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I went in today to get rear parking brakes fixed... (at the dealership)
> surprise not a recall item because I have a automatic transmission, not
> manual. Exact same parking brakes, but since no one has died yet from
> the parking brake failure on a automatic transmission its not covered!
> Anyway the almost $300 repair job worked fine, I have better parking
> brakes than new. Why do I care? I park on hills a lot and just somehow
> can't bring myself to trust the parking pawl in the transmission.
>
> So since the brakes are working so good, I thought I'd jack up the rear
> tire to make sure they did not have them sooo tight they were
> dragging. They were ok, but I did notice a BIG hole (maybe 1 x 2
> inches) rusted in both rear brake backing plates... I could look in and
> see something that looked like brake parts!!
>
> I realize this is a 6 year old truck, but I've never seen so much rust
> on everything underneath, brake, fuel lines and these brakes.
> So should I just get some galvanized or stainless sheet metal and
> patch up the hole, complain (to who?) or trade off the truck?
> >> Stay informed about: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:44 am
Post subject: Re: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 28 Jun 2006 17:23:40 -0700, "MachineShop@hotmail.com"
<MachineShop.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I went in today to get rear parking brakes fixed... (at the dealership)
>surprise not a recall item because I have a automatic transmission, not
>manual. Exact same parking brakes, but since no one has died yet from
>the parking brake failure on a automatic transmission its not covered!
>Anyway the almost $300 repair job worked fine, I have better parking
>brakes than new. Why do I care? I park on hills a lot and just somehow
>can't bring myself to trust the parking pawl in the transmission.
>
>So since the brakes are working so good, I thought I'd jack up the rear
>tire to make sure they did not have them sooo tight they were
>dragging. They were ok, but I did notice a BIG hole (maybe 1 x 2
>inches) rusted in both rear brake backing plates... I could look in and
>see something that looked like brake parts!!
>
>I realize this is a 6 year old truck, but I've never seen so much rust
>on everything underneath, brake, fuel lines and these brakes.
> So should I just get some galvanized or stainless sheet metal and
>patch up the hole, complain (to who?) or trade off the truck?
Were do you live because they were fixing it for free in some rust
belt areas on the Silverado style trucks.
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The SnoMan
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:40 am
Post subject: Re: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Yours is a newer model, and perhaps drum brakes? My son's new GMC
Sierra PU has drums in the rear. Anyway since the adjuster is at the
top of the parking brake (all one piece, two shoes assy) there is no
need for a hole at the bottom, unless is was intended to act as a
drain? In any event I've never had a car or pickup with so much
rust, even after 20 years.
My question was, how many other owners are having the same problem and
what did you do to correct?
I top post as I always have because if someone is following the post,
they have already read the messages before and have no need to scroll
down through needless quoted lines.
Eugene Nine wrote:
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> Yes, what I'm saying is there is still a hole in the bottom, mine has one
> ( '04 ) for the adjuster.
> >> Stay informed about: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:30 am
Post subject: Re: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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So is yours rusted...? I'm looking for a solution. Thank you for
your input.
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> They didn't switch back to drum brakes until 05, mine still has the rear
> discs. I haven't needed to adjust mine yet but see the oval hole at the
> bottom like traditional drum brakes.
> >> Stay informed about: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:28 am
Post subject: Re: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Trust me its rusted! A 1 x 3 inch hole you can stick your fingers into
is not a adjustment slot. My suggestion to you and others is to
paint or coat in some way this plate, perhaps the new ones are from the
factory. My thought is the rust started with the slot. Does yours have
a rubber plug? Otherwise it would rust from inside and out, perhaps
explaining the parking brake problem, I and others are having.
Eugene Nine wrote:
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> Not yet, but mine is newer so we shall see in a couple years. What I mean
> is there is a hole there already so yours is probably not rusted through. >> Stay informed about: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:14 am
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MachineShop.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:
> Eugene this is the parking brake, the "real" rear brake is disk. The
> parking brake drum is on the back of the rear disk brake rotor. The
> cable operated parking brake shoes are on the back plate, like a real
> drum brake would have. Not a good thing as the adjustment is as I have
> described... that is why I took to dealership, so any recalls or claims
> for payment for repairs would not be disputed by GM.
>
Yes, what I'm saying is there is still a hole in the bottom, mine has one
( '04 ) for the adjuster.
Also please post correctly in the thread, your making it difficult for
others to follow. >> Stay informed about: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:25 am
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Thanks JR.
JR wrote:
> Usenet has NO STANDARD as to top or bottom posting.
> It is personal preference and the Usenet GUIDELINES state as much.
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> "Eugene Nine" <no DeleteThis @spam.com> wrote in message
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> > MachineShop DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
> > Just because you have always posted the wrong way doesn't mean you should
> > continue. Your or my preference doesn't matter unless we wish to re-write
> > the usenet standard, I switched to posting properly years ago when I
> > learned there was a standard.
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> > >> Stay informed about: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:16 am
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MachineShop.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> Yours is a newer model, and perhaps drum brakes? My son's new GMC
> Sierra PU has drums in the rear. Anyway since the adjuster is at the
> top of the parking brake (all one piece, two shoes assy) there is no
> need for a hole at the bottom, unless is was intended to act as a
> drain? In any event I've never had a car or pickup with so much
> rust, even after 20 years.
They didn't switch back to drum brakes until 05, mine still has the rear
discs. I haven't needed to adjust mine yet but see the oval hole at the
bottom like traditional drum brakes.
> My question was, how many other owners are having the same problem and
> what did you do to correct?
> I top post as I always have because if someone is following the post,
> they have already read the messages before and have no need to scroll
> down through needless quoted lines.
>
Just because you have always posted the wrong way doesn't mean you should
continue. Your or my preference doesn't matter unless we wish to re-write
the usenet standard, I switched to posting properly years ago when I
learned there was a standard. >> Stay informed about: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:49 am
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MachineShop.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> So is yours rusted...? I'm looking for a solution. Thank you for
> your input.
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Not yet, but mine is newer so we shall see in a couple years. What I mean
is there is a hole there already so yours is probably not rusted through. >> Stay informed about: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:56 am
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Follow Up: Just got off the phone with the service manager of the
dealership, they will allow me labor credit for not calling me when
the whole thing was apart and given me the option of replacing the
back plates then. So since there is not a recall I get to pay another
$300 plus to R&R backplates... I will need to go to GM for any claims
for labor and materials.
Thanks Eugene and others for taking the time to reply.
MachineShop.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> Trust me its rusted! A 1 x 3 inch hole you can stick your fingers into
> is not a adjustment slot. My suggestion to you and others is to
> paint or coat in some way this plate, perhaps the new ones are from the
> factory. My thought is the rust started with the slot. Does yours have
> a rubber plug? Otherwise it would rust from inside and out, perhaps
> explaining the parking brake problem, I and others are having.
> >> Stay informed about: 99 Silverado Rear Brake Rusted & Parking |
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