99 Concorde heater core replacement

Road Runner wrote:
> Yes this is accurate. The air conditioning system must be emptied (recovered
> with machine) and then evacuated and recharged afterward. You will want to
> replace the A/C evaporator at the same time if it shows any signs of leakage
> as they are very prone to failure.

I agree with Road Runner - he beat me to the suggestion that you replace
the evaporator while you're in there. The evaporators in these LH cars
are known for failing (just did my '99 Concorde evap. last year - did
the work myself). The dash has to be completely removed to do either
the heater core or the evaporator. Since, as RR says, the a.c. has to
be broken open, the only added charge of replacing the evap. at the same
time is the cost of the evap. part itself - IIRC, $200-300 depending on
the dealer. (If a competent shop does the work, they should be able to
re-use the old accumulator/dryer.)

Since you mention timing *belt* - not chain - you must have the 3.2L
engine (and not the 2.7L engine) - is that right? Be sure to also
replace the timing belt idler/tensioner pulley too. Gates makes a
"timing belt kit" - contains the timing belt and the idler pulley - just
over $100 for the kit. I recommend going Gates or OEM on the water pump.

Bill Putney
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I've been mulling over the core/belt work. Me t'inks I'll opt for the core
right at this time.
$$ consideration. The core is a must deal!

Considering the belt issue, and yes this is the 3.2 engine Bill, how
difficult would it be
for myself to change those. I've been looking at my Allpar tech info. Is
that special piece that keeps the cam sprockets steady necessary, or do I
merely be very cautious about working around them?
Thanks.
"Bill Putney" <bptn.DeleteThis@kinez.net> wrote in message
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> Road Runner wrote:
>> Yes this is accurate. The air conditioning system must be emptied
>> (recovered with machine) and then evacuated and recharged afterward. You
>> will want to replace the A/C evaporator at the same time if it shows any
>> signs of leakage as they are very prone to failure.
>
> I agree with Road Runner - he beat me to the suggestion that you replace
> the evaporator while you're in there. The evaporators in these LH cars
> are known for failing (just did my '99 Concorde evap. last year - did the
> work myself). The dash has to be completely removed to do either the
> heater core or the evaporator. Since, as RR says, the a.c. has to be
> broken open, the only added charge of replacing the evap. at the same time
> is the cost of the evap. part itself - IIRC, $200-300 depending on the
> dealer. (If a competent shop does the work, they should be able to re-use
> the old accumulator/dryer.)
>
> Since you mention timing *belt* - not chain - you must have the 3.2L
> engine (and not the 2.7L engine) - is that right? Be sure to also replace
> the timing belt idler/tensioner pulley too. Gates makes a "timing belt
> kit" - contains the timing belt and the idler pulley - just over $100 for
> the kit. I recommend going Gates or OEM on the water pump.
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
> with the letter 'x')
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If you are mechanically inclined the timing belt is a rather easy job to
do, no special tools are needed for this job. set cams, and crank and on
your way.
The book will probably tell you to remove the crank gear (you dont have to
do this unless you are replacing the crank seal then a special tool is
needed).
As far as the heater core/Evap, that could be a tricky job to do. I have
never used alldata and sure wouldnt attempt this job with a Haynes/Chilton
manual. Just my 2 cents worth

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech

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in michigan i'll do it for 200.00 labor
i do aleast 150 of these cars a year for heater cores and ac evap coils

Glenn O'Connor wrote:

> Hi. I've just been quoted approximately $1500-1800, to have the core and
> timing belt/water pump replaced.
> I've been scraping together the money to do the belt myself, but since
> the core is
> starting to "vapor", that getting it all done at the same time would be
> good.
> Looking at the Allpar account for this model vehicle, and knowing that
> Allpar can
> be wrong, it shows hours flagged for the core replacement at 6+ hours for a
> competent
> tech.
> Is the price worth the expense quoted? The shop rate is $83 p/h and they
> offer a
> 18k/18m warranty.
> Thanks.
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philthy wrote:
> in michigan i'll do it for 200.00 labor
> i do aleast 150 of these cars a year for heater cores and ac evap coils

You're pulling an entire dash on an LH car on average about one every
day and a half of the work week? Two to three a week? And it only
takes you about 3 hours start to finish?

Bill Putney
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"Bill Putney" <bptn DeleteThis @kinez.net> wrote in message
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> philthy wrote:
> > in michigan i'll do it for 200.00 labor
> > i do aleast 150 of these cars a year for heater cores and ac evap coils
>
> You're pulling an entire dash on an LH car on average about one every
> day and a half of the work week? Two to three a week? And it only
> takes you about 3 hours start to finish?
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> address with the letter 'x')

This job can be done in about 1 1/2 start to finish. The complete dash does
not have to be completely removed from the vehicle.

Glenn
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Glenn O'Connor wrote:
> Thanks for all the input folks. I think I'll bite the bullet and pay the $$$
> to have both items serviced. At least their warranty is generous, 18k/18m.
> Just work xtra job to pay for it all!
>

Well - as proven by Einstein: "Time = money". (see - I *do* know
science!!)

It's going to cost you time either way you look at it - either time to
do it or time to make money to pay someone else. Probably less of your
time to work for the money and pay someone else to do it. Especially if
you're only going to be paying someone for a couple of hours of their
time (I do find that hard to believe). Guaranteed it would take you (or
me - I know - I did it) a *lot* longer than that.

Bill Putney
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Well folks, I've made my final decision. To let the shop do the more
distasteful "chore of the core". Clever turn of phrase, eh? I can tackle the
belt/water pump later, when it warms up enought to park under my now
leafless shade-tree. And that's not far from the truth.
BTW, my residence is in the Greater KCMO area.

"Bill Putney" <bptn DeleteThis @kinez.net> wrote in message
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> Glenn O'Connor wrote:
>> Thanks for all the input folks. I think I'll bite the bullet and pay the
>> $$$ to have both items serviced. At least their warranty is generous,
>> 18k/18m. Just work xtra job to pay for it all!
>>
>
> Well - as proven by Einstein: "Time = money". (see - I *do* know
> science!!)
>
> It's going to cost you time either way you look at it - either time to do
> it or time to make money to pay someone else. Probably less of your time
> to work for the money and pay someone else to do it. Especially if you're
> only going to be paying someone for a couple of hours of their time (I do
> find that hard to believe). Guaranteed it would take you (or me - I
> know - I did it) a *lot* longer than that.
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
> with the letter 'x')
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Glenn O'Connor wrote:
> Well folks, I've made my final decision. To let the shop do the more
> distasteful "chore of the core". Clever turn of phrase, eh? I can tackle the
> belt/water pump later, when it warms up enought to park under my now
> leafless shade-tree. And that's not far from the truth.
> BTW, my residence is in the Greater KCMO area.

KC, huh? There is a Chrysler dealer there - Jack Miller Jeep - that
*had* been one of the lowest price on-line OEM parts dealers -
www.allchryslerparts.com However their web site doesn't appear to be
active starting about the time that Cerberus bought Chrysler. Are they
still a Chrysler dealer? Anyway - if they still are a dealer, you might
consider them for parts.

Bill Putney
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Jack Miller's about 2 or 3 miles south of me. Have used them for service in
the past, as well as one new purchase. However, as far as the belt/water
pump, Advance Auto's even closer. Don't really know if OEM parts are better,
or not Bill.

"Bill Putney" <bptn.DeleteThis@kinez.net> wrote in message
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> Glenn O'Connor wrote:
>> Well folks, I've made my final decision. To let the shop do the more
>> distasteful "chore of the core". Clever turn of phrase, eh? I can tackle
>> the belt/water pump later, when it warms up enought to park under my now
>> leafless shade-tree. And that's not far from the truth.
>> BTW, my residence is in the Greater KCMO area.
>
> KC, huh? There is a Chrysler dealer there - Jack Miller Jeep - that *had*
> been one of the lowest price on-line OEM parts dealers -
> www.allchryslerparts.com However their web site doesn't appear to be
> active starting about the time that Cerberus bought Chrysler. Are they
> still a Chrysler dealer? Anyway - if they still are a dealer, you might
> consider them for parts.
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
> with the letter 'x')
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no it takes about 5 hours and because i do them some of them at home i do
them cheaper thats why i do so many

Bill Putney wrote:

> philthy wrote:
> > in michigan i'll do it for 200.00 labor
> > i do aleast 150 of these cars a year for heater cores and ac evap coils
>
> You're pulling an entire dash on an LH car on average about one every
> day and a half of the work week? Two to three a week? And it only
> takes you about 3 hours start to finish?
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> address with the letter 'x')
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"philthy" <dbrider.RemoveThis@cac.net> wrote in message
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> no it takes about 5 hours and because i do them some of them at home i do
> them cheaper thats why i do so many
>
> Bill Putney wrote:
>
> > philthy wrote:
> > > in michigan i'll do it for 200.00 labor
> > > i do aleast 150 of these cars a year for heater cores and ac evap
coils
> >
> > You're pulling an entire dash on an LH car on average about one every
> > day and a half of the work week? Two to three a week? And it only
> > takes you about 3 hours start to finish?
> >
> > Bill Putney
> > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> > address with the letter 'x')
>

If you are doing that many of them and it takes you 5 hours something is
wrong. Warranty time I believe was 2.4hrs
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On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:42:27 GMT, "Glenn O'Connor"
<kf0ed DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Jack Miller's about 2 or 3 miles south of me. Have used them for service in
>the past, as well as one new purchase. However, as far as the belt/water
>pump, Advance Auto's even closer. Don't really know if OEM parts are better,
>or not Bill.
>

Get the waterpump from the dealer. Worth every penny of price
difference.

Steve B.
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