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Rob Tull

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:23 am
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Hey all:

I have a 3.0L V6 1996 Ford Taurus that recently experienced a
transmission failure, after having an intermittent problem where it
would drop out of gear at low speeds. I went ahead and had it
rebuilt, and bit the cost, only to have it do the exact same thing it
was doing before the next day after I picked it up. It's an
intermittent problem where at low speeds the car suddenly drops out of
gear, and won't go back in unless I move the shift lever or rev it up
really high.
The problem is, both time I took it back to the shop, it ran fine, and
they couldn't find anything.
Now, it won't go at all. It acts like it goes into gear when I shift,
but all the engine does is rev up, and the car goes nowhere.
I think this is electrical, and so does my tech (he said something
about a sensor "over pressurizing" the transmission), but I haven't
been able to get it fixed and now my only car is down. Is there
something I can do to work around the problem till I can get it fixed,
or am I stuck?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Rob Tull

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:00 am
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I told them to find the problem. They checked it out, and told me it
needed a rebuild. Now I think that I got stuck, because after the
$1400 so-called "rebuild" the problem has not been fixed.

As far as I know there is no history. The car has never been wrecked,
and the previous (first) owner, said it ran fine for them, with no
major problems.

What I am wondering is if there is some sensor or something I can
unplug to at least get the car rolling for the time being. I'm not
particularly car-literate, but I know my way around an engine.

Thanks for the response.

~Rob

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Bob Urz

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:55 am
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Rob Tull wrote:
> Hey all:
>
> I have a 3.0L V6 1996 Ford Taurus that recently experienced a
> transmission failure, after having an intermittent problem where it
> would drop out of gear at low speeds. I went ahead and had it
> rebuilt, and bit the cost, only to have it do the exact same thing it
> was doing before the next day after I picked it up. It's an
> intermittent problem where at low speeds the car suddenly drops out of
> gear, and won't go back in unless I move the shift lever or rev it up
> really high.
> The problem is, both time I took it back to the shop, it ran fine, and
> they couldn't find anything.
> Now, it won't go at all. It acts like it goes into gear when I shift,
> but all the engine does is rev up, and the car goes nowhere.
> I think this is electrical, and so does my tech (he said something
> about a sensor "over pressurizing" the transmission), but I haven't
> been able to get it fixed and now my only car is down. Is there
> something I can do to work around the problem till I can get it fixed,
> or am I stuck?
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>

Did you tell them to rebuild it, or find the problem?
Did they do an actual diagnostic on it BEFORE they tore it down?
A good trannie shop has something called a "shaffer shifter" of such
that takes the place of the cars computer and allows the shop to
manually check the shifting of the trannie. They can usually tell from
this test if its the trannie or the computer trying to shift it.


This trannie is electronically shifted. Some sort of electrical problem
could potentially cause a problem. Its not uncommon to have the VSS fail
or have the VSS electrical harness fail. But usually when that happens
the car downshifts at high speed or such rather than go out of gear.

ANy history on this car? Has the motor, trannie or sub frame been out of
the car when the cars wiring could have gotten stressed or broken?
Did they flush out the trannie cooler and check to see if it was plugged
or any of the lines kincked?


Bob

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:10 am
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I paid with a check, and it has already hit. However, I'm going to
have it towed back in tomorrow, and I'm going to make it very clear
that I want this fixed. I'm not happy, because from my point of view
they charged me $1400 for unneeded work, and didn't fix the problem to
boot. I'm going to tell them as much, and make it clear that unless
they get the issue resolved - quickly - I will be sure and let other
people know to stay away as well.
It was a major headache going without my car for a week, and it's not
any better now.

Thanks for the thoughts though. I think in the future I will steer
clear of Ford Tauruses. I've been reading on the Internet and it
seems that a lot of people have this problem. My car has only 108,000
on it, and it's been well cared for, so I shouldn't be having any
issues at all.

~Rob
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:55 pm
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"Rob Tull" <tull.robbo RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176042228.137725.6470@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Hey all:
>
> I have a 3.0L V6 1996 Ford Taurus that recently experienced a
> transmission failure, after having an intermittent problem where it
> would drop out of gear at low speeds. I went ahead and had it
> rebuilt, and bit the cost, only to have it do the exact same thing it
> was doing before the next day after I picked it up. It's an
> intermittent problem where at low speeds the car suddenly drops out of
> gear, and won't go back in unless I move the shift lever or rev it up
> really high.
> The problem is, both time I took it back to the shop, it ran fine, and
> they couldn't find anything.
> Now, it won't go at all. It acts like it goes into gear when I shift,
> but all the engine does is rev up, and the car goes nowhere.
> I think this is electrical, and so does my tech (he said something
> about a sensor "over pressurizing" the transmission), but I haven't
> been able to get it fixed and now my only car is down. Is there
> something I can do to work around the problem till I can get it fixed,
> or am I stuck?
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Take it back to the transmission shop. It wouldn't do it when you took it
back before, but it is doing it now.

Jeff
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:55 pm
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"Rob Tull" <tull.robbo RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I told them to find the problem. They checked it out, and told me it
> needed a rebuild. Now I think that I got stuck, because after the
> $1400 so-called "rebuild" the problem has not been fixed.
>
> As far as I know there is no history. The car has never been wrecked,
> and the previous (first) owner, said it ran fine for them, with no
> major problems.
>
> What I am wondering is if there is some sensor or something I can
> unplug to at least get the car rolling for the time being. I'm not
> particularly car-literate, but I know my way around an engine.
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> ~Rob

Call the transmission shop, tell them it is not working at all and you need
it towed to the shop.

What is the time frame? I am hoping you paid for this with a credit card. If
you did, you have 60 days after the first bill on which this appeared to
stop payment. I would contact the credit card company today, and get going
on that.

Jeff
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Bob Urz

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:33 pm
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Rob Tull wrote:
> I paid with a check, and it has already hit. However, I'm going to
> have it towed back in tomorrow, and I'm going to make it very clear
> that I want this fixed. I'm not happy, because from my point of view
> they charged me $1400 for unneeded work, and didn't fix the problem to
> boot. I'm going to tell them as much, and make it clear that unless
> they get the issue resolved - quickly - I will be sure and let other
> people know to stay away as well.
> It was a major headache going without my car for a week, and it's not
> any better now.
>
> Thanks for the thoughts though. I think in the future I will steer
> clear of Ford Tauruses. I've been reading on the Internet and it
> seems that a lot of people have this problem. My car has only 108,000
> on it, and it's been well cared for, so I shouldn't be having any
> issues at all.
>
> ~Rob
>

You need to stick to the facts rather than get emotional.
You took the car in for repair. Supposedly, they diagnosed it and fixed
it. I would ask:
WHat specific problem did they diagnose?
(it needs a rebuild does not count)
What was found when the transmission was tore down?
What specific list of parts was replaced?
What hard parts (if any) were used?
Did they rebuild your transmission or use a another unit and swap it out?

If they cannot answer the questions, then i would start to get irritated.

$1400 seems a little on the low side for a complete R/R and rebuild
in most places.

Bob

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:55 pm
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Rob Tull wrote:
> Hey all:
>
> I have a 3.0L V6 1996 Ford Taurus that recently experienced a
> transmission failure, after having an intermittent problem where it
> would drop out of gear at low speeds. I went ahead and had it
> rebuilt, and bit the cost, only to have it do the exact same thing it
> was doing before the next day after I picked it up. It's an
> intermittent problem where at low speeds the car suddenly drops out of
> gear, and won't go back in unless I move the shift lever or rev it up
> really high.
> The problem is, both time I took it back to the shop, it ran fine, and
> they couldn't find anything.
> Now, it won't go at all. It acts like it goes into gear when I shift,
> but all the engine does is rev up, and the car goes nowhere.
> I think this is electrical, and so does my tech (he said something
> about a sensor "over pressurizing" the transmission), but I haven't
> been able to get it fixed and now my only car is down. Is there
> something I can do to work around the problem till I can get it fixed,
> or am I stuck?
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Did the problem occur at the shop when you first took it to them, before
the rebuild? If not, how did they determine that the transmission needed
to be rebuilt if the problem wasn't happening when they had the car?
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:59 am
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Did you take it to AAMCO or some other national chain that can't fix a
transmission?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:39 pm
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scott21230 RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> Did you take it to AAMCO or some other national chain that can't fix a
> transmission?
>

AAMCO would have charged him a lot more for a non working trannie.......

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