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Since: Nov 08, 2007 Posts: 61
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:55 pm
Post subject: Re: '96 Tacoma 4x4 Front diff removal [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>autos>toyota (more info?)
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Well, guess i don't feel like such an idiot any more.
I put a brand new thermostat in the truck this afternoon. Filled the
truck up again with water. Went for a drive and the overheating
problem is back again. I'm about to just leave the thermostat out
of the truck and let it go. It wouldn't overheat without the
thermostat, so @#%)* it..
Before I decided to fix this fricking piece of trash 5vz, I was going
to pull this 5vzAnchor out and put in a 1KZ... I really wish I had
just installed the 1KZ now and thrown the 5vz through the previous
owner's living room window.
There's no trash in the motor. It just doesn't like to have a
thermostat installed. >> Stay informed about: '96 Tacoma 4x4 Front diff removal |
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:59 pm
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Since: Jun 02, 2006 Posts: 4627
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:05 pm
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"Nza" <thenza.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> by the way,......
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> re-checked the old "broken" thermostat... it works fine.
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> I am clueless. Sounds like I'm just going to need to pull out this
> engine and throw it the *@#$%!@ away.
OK, the problem appears to be related to the thermostat or thermostat
installation.
Some things to check... When the t-stat opens, does it open fully?
Is the t-stat mounted so that the jiggler valve is roughly at the 12 o'clock
position?
Is the t-state mounted so that the spring is towards the engine?
If the t-stat if aftermarket, does the mounting flange stay put and not get
cocked when the housing is replaced?
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Ray O
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:45 am
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On Jun 7, 10:05 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
> OK, the problem appears to be related to the thermostat or thermostat
> installation.
>
> Some things to check... When the t-stat opens, does it open fully?
> Is the t-stat mounted so that the jiggler valve is roughly at the 12 o'clock
> position?
> Is the t-state mounted so that the spring is towards the engine?
> If the t-stat if aftermarket, does the mounting flange stay put and not get
> cocked when the housing is replaced?
I have not checked the new thermostat to see how far it is opening..
This is a stant aftermarket thermostat that my bro picked up
yesterday... no jiggler on it like on the original t-stat. When I
had the old t-stat in there, the jiggler was at 12 o'clock.
Fortunately, the thing won't fit in with the spring outside the
engine, so there's only one way.. With the gasket, this aftermarket
junk fits as well as the original thermostat. The only difference is
the jiggler (and slight design difference). I was thinking of
taking the thing back out and drilling a small hole and placing it at
the 12 o'clock position.. then reinstalling it.
I'm so glad I'm not working on this at a dealership... LOL! >> Stay informed about: '96 Tacoma 4x4 Front diff removal |
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Since: Jun 02, 2006 Posts: 4627
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:13 pm
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"Nza" <thenza RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 7, 10:05 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>
>> OK, the problem appears to be related to the thermostat or thermostat
>> installation.
>>
>> Some things to check... When the t-stat opens, does it open fully?
>> Is the t-stat mounted so that the jiggler valve is roughly at the 12
>> o'clock
>> position?
>> Is the t-state mounted so that the spring is towards the engine?
>> If the t-stat if aftermarket, does the mounting flange stay put and not
>> get
>> cocked when the housing is replaced?
>
>
> I have not checked the new thermostat to see how far it is opening..
> This is a stant aftermarket thermostat that my bro picked up
> yesterday... no jiggler on it like on the original t-stat. When I
> had the old t-stat in there, the jiggler was at 12 o'clock.
> Fortunately, the thing won't fit in with the spring outside the
> engine, so there's only one way.. With the gasket, this aftermarket
> junk fits as well as the original thermostat. The only difference is
> the jiggler (and slight design difference). I was thinking of
> taking the thing back out and drilling a small hole and placing it at
> the 12 o'clock position.. then reinstalling it.
>
> I'm so glad I'm not working on this at a dealership... LOL!
Someone once told me the purpose of the jiggler valve, but I don't remember
what it was. Stant is usually a pretty good brand, but I have heard of them
shifting a little when re-installing the housing, and the shift kept the
thermostat from opening fully. What is the opening temp of the new t-stat?
--
Ray O
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:48 am
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On Jun 8, 9:13 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
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> Someone once told me the purpose of the jiggler valve, but I don't remember
> what it was. Stant is usually a pretty good brand, but I have heard of them
> shifting a little when re-installing the housing, and the shift kept the
> thermostat from opening fully. What is the opening temp of the new t-stat?
If I'm not mistaken, I believe the jiggler is to allow water to get to
both sides of the thermostat before it opens..
This thermostat is a 180F opening..
Oh, i discovered another problem yesterday... LOL... for some reason,
the goop I used on the oil pan to seal it ain't sealing it..
woohooo! I think i'm going to cut a gasket out of thin cardboard
and glue the thing on there.. >> Stay informed about: '96 Tacoma 4x4 Front diff removal |
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Since: Jun 02, 2006 Posts: 4627
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:08 am
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"Nza" <thenza.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 8, 9:13 pm, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>>
>> Someone once told me the purpose of the jiggler valve, but I don't
>> remember
>> what it was. Stant is usually a pretty good brand, but I have heard of
>> them
>> shifting a little when re-installing the housing, and the shift kept the
>> thermostat from opening fully. What is the opening temp of the new
>> t-stat?
>
>
> If I'm not mistaken, I believe the jiggler is to allow water to get to
> both sides of the thermostat before it opens..
> This thermostat is a 180F opening..
>
I don't know, but water is already on both sides of the thermostat before it
opens.
If the car overheats with the Stant thermostat and does not overheat without
any thermostat, then try replacing with an OEM one.
>
> Oh, i discovered another problem yesterday... LOL... for some reason,
> the goop I used on the oil pan to seal it ain't sealing it..
> woohooo! I think i'm going to cut a gasket out of thin cardboard
> and glue the thing on there..
>
Make sure that the goop, also referred to as formed-in-place gasket, or
FIPG, is O2 sensor-friendly and that you tighten the oil pan bolts in a star
pattern a little at a time. I would clean the surfaces where the FIPG is
installed with brake cleaner for a better chance of a good seal.
--
Ray O
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