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celliot75

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:51 pm
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Hi Guys,

You've helped me in the past, hope I can get your advice on my current
problem. I have a 1996 honda accord LX that runs hot when I'm in stop
and go traffic. On a straight away, the engine cools back down to the
proper level. Also, when I'm stopped for awhile and the engine starts
to over-heat....I noticed that the A/C would stop blowing cold air
also ( could this be a switch problem of some sort, with the A/C
fan). Right now I only drive the vehicle short distances, if its a
situation where it begins to over-heat, I turn the car off until it's
time to go again. Thank you in advace for any help you can provide
me.

--Craig

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:51 pm
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On Jun 11, 11:51 am, celliot75 wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> You've helped me in the past, hope I can get your advice on my current
> problem. I have a 1996 honda accord LX that runs hot when I'm in stop
> and go traffic. On a straight away, the engine cools back down to the
> proper level. Also, when I'm stopped for awhile and the engine starts
> to over-heat....I noticed that the A/C would stop blowing cold air
> also ( could this be a switch problem of some sort, with the A/C
> fan). Right now I only drive the vehicle short distances, if its a
> situation where it begins to over-heat, I turn the car off until it's
> time to go again. Thank you in advace for any help you can provide
> me.
>
> --Craig


You probably need a flush.. Maybe even a new radiator..
I would fix that *fast* if you like that car.. Overheating is the
fastest way on earth to kill a honda.. Sad
Make sure the fans are working right.. They probably are..
It's probably new radiator time..
MK

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:51 pm
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celliot75 wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> You've helped me in the past, hope I can get your advice on my current
> problem. I have a 1996 honda accord LX that runs hot when I'm in stop
> and go traffic. On a straight away, the engine cools back down to the
> proper level. Also, when I'm stopped for awhile and the engine starts
> to over-heat....I noticed that the A/C would stop blowing cold air
> also ( could this be a switch problem of some sort, with the A/C
> fan). Right now I only drive the vehicle short distances, if its a
> situation where it begins to over-heat, I turn the car off until it's
> time to go again. Thank you in advace for any help you can provide
> me.

Check that your radiator fan is running when the car is hot. If not, the
fan may be dead, or you may have an electrical issue.

Your symptoms are very common in a car whose fan is not running, since at a
stop there is no air flowing through the radiator fins.
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nm5k

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:51 pm
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On Jun 11, 4:15 pm, Jim Yanik wrote:
> celliot75 wrote innews:1181584298.215604.225410@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Hi Guys,
>
> > You've helped me in the past, hope I can get your advice on my current
> > problem. I have a 1996 honda accord LX that runs hot when I'm in stop
> > and go traffic. On a straight away, the engine cools back down to the
> > proper level. Also, when I'm stopped for awhile and the engine starts
> > to over-heat....I noticed that the A/C would stop blowing cold air
> > also ( could this be a switch problem of some sort, with the A/C
> > fan). Right now I only drive the vehicle short distances, if its a
> > situation where it begins to over-heat, I turn the car off until it's
> > time to go again. Thank you in advace for any help you can provide
> > me.
>
> > --Craig
>
> You need a new thermostat;use a genuine Honda TS for replacement.
> They are not expensive.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net


Dunno.. I don't think it's the stat. If the stat stuck closed, it
would
overheat at any speed. The more I think about it, the more it sounds
like the fans are not working.. You need the fans for both the engine
cooling, and the A/C condensor. Being he's reporting that both are
flaking out when still, kinda is making me lean to the fans being out.
If you had a bad radiator, that shouldn't effect the heat transfer
across
the condensor, being they are separate coils. Well, unless the
radiator
was really clogged..
So anyway, I'm starting to revise my first guess.. I'm starting to
lean to
the fan/s being out fer some reason..
MK
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:56 pm
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On Jun 11, 12:51 pm, celliot75 wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> You've helped me in the past, hope I can get your advice on my current
> problem. I have a 1996 honda accord LX that runs hot when I'm in stop
> and go traffic. On a straight away, the engine cools back down to the
> proper level. Also, when I'm stopped for awhile and the engine starts
> to over-heat....I noticed that the A/C would stop blowing cold air
> also ( could this be a switch problem of some sort, with the A/C
> fan). Right now I only drive the vehicle short distances, if its a
> situation where it begins to over-heat, I turn the car off until it's
> time to go again. Thank you in advace for any help you can provide
> me.
>
> --Craig

Also, my car has over 160,000 miles..... And the A/C does blow cold
again when I start to drive again.

--Craig
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Elle

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:56 pm
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Top off the coolant in the reservoir using only OEM Honda
coolant. Start monitoring the level of coolant in the
reservoir: Start of day when cool, then when warmed up. If
the level appears to be going down and you have to regularly
top off the coolant, then this will be an indication of
whether there is a leak somewhere.

It's possible you just have a faulty thermostat, too,
especially if the thermostat installed is the original one.
It's worth replacing pre-emptively just to see if it fixes
this problem. Use only an OEM thermstat.

"celliot75" wrote
> Hi Guys,
>
> You've helped me in the past, hope I can get your advice
> on my current
> problem. I have a 1996 honda accord LX that runs hot when
> I'm in stop
> and go traffic. On a straight away, the engine cools back
> down to the
> proper level. Also, when I'm stopped for awhile and the
> engine starts
> to over-heat....I noticed that the A/C would stop blowing
> cold air
> also ( could this be a switch problem of some sort, with
> the A/C
> fan). Right now I only drive the vehicle short distances,
> if its a
> situation where it begins to over-heat, I turn the car off
> until it's
> time to go again. Thank you in advace for any help you
> can provide
> me.
>
> --Craig
>
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Jim Yanik1

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:55 pm
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celliot75 wrote in


> Hi Guys,
>
> You've helped me in the past, hope I can get your advice on my current
> problem. I have a 1996 honda accord LX that runs hot when I'm in stop
> and go traffic. On a straight away, the engine cools back down to the
> proper level. Also, when I'm stopped for awhile and the engine starts
> to over-heat....I noticed that the A/C would stop blowing cold air
> also ( could this be a switch problem of some sort, with the A/C
> fan). Right now I only drive the vehicle short distances, if its a
> situation where it begins to over-heat, I turn the car off until it's
> time to go again. Thank you in advace for any help you can provide
> me.
>
> --Craig
>

You need a new thermostat;use a genuine Honda TS for replacement.
They are not expensive.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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Zippo

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:55 pm
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On Jun 11, 7:15 pm, Jim Yanik wrote:

>
> You need a new thermostat;use a genuine Honda TS for replacement.
> They are not expensive.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net

Expensive to the Canadian consumer though.Paid $39 for one last
week.Major rip-off.
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Jim Yanik1

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:55 am
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nm5k DeleteThis @wt.net wrote in


> On Jun 11, 4:15 pm, Jim Yanik wrote:
>> celliot75 wrote
>> innews:1181584298.215604.225410@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Hi Guys,
>>
>> > You've helped me in the past, hope I can get your advice on my
>> > current problem. I have a 1996 honda accord LX that runs hot when
>> > I'm in stop and go traffic. On a straight away, the engine cools
>> > back down to the proper level. Also, when I'm stopped for awhile
>> > and the engine starts to over-heat....I noticed that the A/C would
>> > stop blowing cold air also ( could this be a switch problem of some
>> > sort, with the A/C fan). Right now I only drive the vehicle short
>> > distances, if its a situation where it begins to over-heat, I turn
>> > the car off until it's time to go again. Thank you in advace for
>> > any help you can provide me.
>>
>> > --Craig
>>
>> You need a new thermostat;use a genuine Honda TS for replacement.
>> They are not expensive.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net
>
>
> Dunno.. I don't think it's the stat. If the stat stuck closed, it
> would
> overheat at any speed. The more I think about it, the more it sounds
> like the fans are not working.. You need the fans for both the engine
> cooling, and the A/C condensor. Being he's reporting that both are
> flaking out when still, kinda is making me lean to the fans being out.
> If you had a bad radiator, that shouldn't effect the heat transfer
> across
> the condensor, being they are separate coils. Well, unless the
> radiator
> was really clogged..
> So anyway, I'm starting to revise my first guess.. I'm starting to
> lean to
> the fan/s being out fer some reason..
> MK
>
>

I had the exact same problem symptoms with my 94 Integra GSR,and it was the
TS.
An OEM Honda TS will fail OPEN,so you don't overheat your motor.

The clue is that the motor cools down when she is moving,radiator problems
or low coolant will not do that.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
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Jim Yanik1

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:55 am
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Zippo wrote in


> On Jun 11, 7:15 pm, Jim Yanik wrote:
>
>>
>> You need a new thermostat;use a genuine Honda TS for replacement.
>> They are not expensive.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net
>
> Expensive to the Canadian consumer though.Paid $39 for one last
> week.Major rip-off.
>
>

Not really;getting a new head or the old one milled because it warps after
your motor overheats because a cheap TS failed -closed- instead of open
like an OEM Honda TS wiil,and also you can't depend on the aftermarket TS
being the right temp for your motor;the one I checked out at PepBoys said a
180 degF TS was right for my Integra,but the manual says it's a 195degF TS.

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Jim Yanik
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Joe LaVigne

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:53 am
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Jim Yanik wrote:

>
> I had the exact same problem symptoms with my 94 Integra GSR,and it was
> the TS.
> An OEM Honda TS will fail OPEN,so you don't overheat your motor.
>
> The clue is that the motor cools down when she is moving,radiator problems
> or low coolant will not do that.
>

But Fan problems will.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:14 am
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On Jun 11, 1:51 pm, celliot75 wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> You've helped me in the past, hope I can get your advice on my current
> problem. I have a 1996 honda accord LX that runs hot when I'm in stop
> and go traffic. On a straight away, the engine cools back down to the
> proper level. Also, when I'm stopped for awhile and the engine starts
> to over-heat....I noticed that the A/C would stop blowing cold air
> also ( could this be a switch problem of some sort, with the A/C
> fan). Right now I only drive the vehicle short distances, if its a
> situation where it begins to over-heat, I turn the car off until it's
> time to go again. Thank you in advace for any help you can provide
> me.
>
> --Craig

Theres a lot of really good advice here on this NG.I would check the
cooling fans first,
if they run at a stop then the next thing to check is the radiator and
TS

If you have never replaced the cooling liquid its possible you have a
plugged rad and it only runs cooler when at speed.

And a faulty TS although Honda Ts`s open on fault , not close.(been
there )

One thing nobody has mentiopned is the water pump . This also could be
a most likely spot to start looking.

When I had my `86 Accord I had the water pump changed at the same time
as the timing belt.

A water pump that has worn impellers will not produce a good flow
through the rad at idle but will at speed because it is running a lot
faster.+ you have better airflow through the rad.

And yes , the impellers do get worn.


hope this helps
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:19 am
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mred wrote:
> On Jun 11, 1:51 pm, celliot75 wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> You've helped me in the past, hope I can get your advice on my current
>> problem. I have a 1996 honda accord LX that runs hot when I'm in stop
>> and go traffic. On a straight away, the engine cools back down to the
>> proper level. Also, when I'm stopped for awhile and the engine starts
>> to over-heat....I noticed that the A/C would stop blowing cold air
>> also ( could this be a switch problem of some sort, with the A/C
>> fan). Right now I only drive the vehicle short distances, if its a
>> situation where it begins to over-heat, I turn the car off until it's
>> time to go again. Thank you in advace for any help you can provide
>> me.
>>
>> --Craig
>
> Theres a lot of really good advice here on this NG.I would check the
> cooling fans first,
> if they run at a stop then the next thing to check is the radiator and
> TS
>
> If you have never replaced the cooling liquid its possible you have a
> plugged rad and it only runs cooler when at speed.
>
> And a faulty TS although Honda Ts`s open on fault , not close.(been
> there )
>
> One thing nobody has mentiopned is the water pump . This also could be
> a most likely spot to start looking.
>
> When I had my `86 Accord I had the water pump changed at the same time
> as the timing belt.
>
> A water pump that has worn impellers will not produce a good flow
> through the rad at idle but will at speed because it is running a lot
> faster.+ you have better airflow through the rad.
>
> And yes , the impellers do get worn.

how? they don't touch anything.

>
>
> hope this helps
>
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:55 am
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Joe LaVigne wrote in


> Jim Yanik wrote:
>
>>
>> I had the exact same problem symptoms with my 94 Integra GSR,and it
>> was the TS.
>> An OEM Honda TS will fail OPEN,so you don't overheat your motor.
>>
>> The clue is that the motor cools down when she is moving,radiator
>> problems or low coolant will not do that.
>>
>
> But Fan problems will.
>
>

A fan problem would be easy to check.

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Jim Yanik
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:08 am
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The next time it overheats, pop the hoold and look at the coolant overflow
tank. If it looks like it's boiling, you've blown a head gasket.

I had the exact same symptons. I tried all the easy fixes. It was the
Headgasket. This was a Civic. Repair was about $800.

G-Man



"celliot75" wrote in message

> Hi Guys,
>
> You've helped me in the past, hope I can get your advice on my current
> problem. I have a 1996 honda accord LX that runs hot when I'm in stop
> and go traffic. On a straight away, the engine cools back down to the
> proper level. Also, when I'm stopped for awhile and the engine starts
> to over-heat....I noticed that the A/C would stop blowing cold air
> also ( could this be a switch problem of some sort, with the A/C
> fan). Right now I only drive the vehicle short distances, if its a
> situation where it begins to over-heat, I turn the car off until it's
> time to go again. Thank you in advace for any help you can provide
> me.
>
> --Craig
>
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