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Since: Dec 17, 2005 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:56 pm
Post subject: 95 VR6 Fuel Pump Questions Archived from groups: rec>autos>makers>vw>watercooled (more info?)
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Car has been having some hard start issues but no hesitations, couple of
stalls at idle very rarely. Today big problems! Car started in morning,
then drove about 15 highway miles at about 80mph no problems. Car sat for
about 2 hours then started up - no problems. Went about 2 miles stop and
go - then major problems. Car started bucking, died - started then died a
minute or two later. Pulled off side of road and tried repeatedly to
restart. After sitting a few minutes tried again - seem to want to catch
for a second then nothing - kept trying until battery went out.
Towed car home - thanks AAA, and started checking. Fuses fine, but tried
listening to fuel pump when friend tried starting - couldn't feel it or hear
it. Checked relay - actually opened relay to see if it was functioning.
Relay will close for a second when key placed in on position, Fully closed
and hold when attempting to start. Never heard fuel pump.
Now in Bentley it says to check pins on fuel pump connector. It doesn't say
which one - only illustration show in first and last position - is this
correct to test for voltage?
If don't get voltage at plug, then what else. Will try to jump to battery
relay position with fuse jumper wire and retest position at fuse to test
circuit.
Do I assume that fusebox relay is ok if it closes or is it possible that
voltage is not running through relay? I'm also assuming that key
(electrical portion is ok).
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. >> Stay informed about: 95 VR6 Fuel Pump Questions |
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Since: Dec 07, 2005 Posts: 278
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:15 pm
Post subject: Re: 95 VR6 Fuel Pump Questions [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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from memory there is 3 or 4 wires to the fuel pump connector. But finding
the pump wires is easy... it's a heavy gauge brown wire and the other heavy
gauge wire. The thinner wires are for the float sender.
"stim141" <sft3281.RemoveThis@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Car has been having some hard start issues but no hesitations, couple of
> stalls at idle very rarely. Today big problems! Car started in morning,
> then drove about 15 highway miles at about 80mph no problems. Car sat for
> about 2 hours then started up - no problems. Went about 2 miles stop and
> go - then major problems. Car started bucking, died - started then died a
> minute or two later. Pulled off side of road and tried repeatedly to
> restart. After sitting a few minutes tried again - seem to want to catch
> for a second then nothing - kept trying until battery went out.
>
> Towed car home - thanks AAA, and started checking. Fuses fine, but tried
> listening to fuel pump when friend tried starting - couldn't feel it or
> hear it. Checked relay - actually opened relay to see if it was
> functioning. Relay will close for a second when key placed in on position,
> Fully closed and hold when attempting to start. Never heard fuel pump.
>
> Now in Bentley it says to check pins on fuel pump connector. It doesn't
> say which one - only illustration show in first and last position - is
> this correct to test for voltage?
>
> If don't get voltage at plug, then what else. Will try to jump to battery
> relay position with fuse jumper wire and retest position at fuse to test
> circuit.
>
> Do I assume that fusebox relay is ok if it closes or is it possible that
> voltage is not running through relay? I'm also assuming that key
> (electrical portion is ok).
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
>
> >> Stay informed about: 95 VR6 Fuel Pump Questions |
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Since: Dec 17, 2005 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:21 am
Post subject: Re: 95 VR6 Fuel Pump Questions [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Thanks, will check it today. Would you recommend getting a pump from a
salvage yard if I find the pump bad? Hopefully I'll get power at the pump
connector otherwise its going to be a long weekend trying to trace down the
faulty electrical connections at the fusebox.
"Lost In Space/Woodchuck" <newsgroupmail1 DeleteThis @wildblue.net> wrote in message
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> from memory there is 3 or 4 wires to the fuel pump connector. But finding
> the pump wires is easy... it's a heavy gauge brown wire and the other
> heavy gauge wire. The thinner wires are for the float sender.
>
>
> "stim141" <sft3281 DeleteThis @charter.net> wrote in message
> news:TkCzf.86$1S5.63@fe05.lga...
>> Car has been having some hard start issues but no hesitations, couple of
>> stalls at idle very rarely. Today big problems! Car started in morning,
>> then drove about 15 highway miles at about 80mph no problems. Car sat
>> for about 2 hours then started up - no problems. Went about 2 miles stop
>> and go - then major problems. Car started bucking, died - started then
>> died a minute or two later. Pulled off side of road and tried repeatedly
>> to restart. After sitting a few minutes tried again - seem to want to
>> catch for a second then nothing - kept trying until battery went out.
>>
>> Towed car home - thanks AAA, and started checking. Fuses fine, but tried
>> listening to fuel pump when friend tried starting - couldn't feel it or
>> hear it. Checked relay - actually opened relay to see if it was
>> functioning. Relay will close for a second when key placed in on
>> position, Fully closed and hold when attempting to start. Never heard
>> fuel pump.
>>
>> Now in Bentley it says to check pins on fuel pump connector. It doesn't
>> say which one - only illustration show in first and last position - is
>> this correct to test for voltage?
>>
>> If don't get voltage at plug, then what else. Will try to jump to
>> battery relay position with fuse jumper wire and retest position at fuse
>> to test circuit.
>>
>> Do I assume that fusebox relay is ok if it closes or is it possible that
>> voltage is not running through relay? I'm also assuming that key
>> (electrical portion is ok).
>>
>> Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
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Since: Jan 16, 2005 Posts: 324
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:55 pm
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Since: Dec 17, 2005 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:40 pm
Post subject: Re: 95 VR6 Fuel Pump Questions [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Well, will be getting rid of the car in less than 2 months. Bought one from
Specialized German for 50 dollars whereas a new pump runs about 200 online
through a discounter. Specialized gives a 6 month warranty - so I'm
covered.
It was definately the pump - got voltage reading at plug end and it does
what it is supposed to do. At least my electrical is not faulty - hate
tracing VW wiring. Went through that a couple of months ago!
"Papa" <bikingis.TakeThisOut@my.fun> wrote in message
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> Its not a good idea to buy used automotive pumps (fuel, power steering, or
> whatever). Why install something that could fail the next day?
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Since: Jan 21, 2006 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:01 am
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Since: Oct 02, 2003 Posts: 46
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:23 pm
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In article <1137862910.244062.4710 DeleteThis @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"stretfordmongrel" <mdccsclmcsjc DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
> was your pump the in-tank type and if so how did you get it out? I have
> a 1990 passat and can't lift the pump housing out of the tank to
> replace pump any help appreciated.
On my 95 Golf, you have to twist the pump (counterclockwise?...I can't
remember) to release the pump from locking tabs that are on the bottom
of the tank. >> Stay informed about: 95 VR6 Fuel Pump Questions |
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