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Mike Y

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:50 pm
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My 95 Pontiac GrandPrix with 3.1 is surging. Not bad, VERY subtle. I
have no error codes, other than EGR (I know I have a clog) but the surge
is under light acceleration, and the EGR shouldn't affect that.

Anyway, I'm gonna try a soak-out of the EGR this weekend if the weather
is nice and I can work on the car. For the surge issue, I'm thinking maybe
just shotgun with new plugs, and possibly test the wires to see.

Anything else obvious to go for? If plugs don't help, I may just try new
wires.
As far as I can tell they are original with 135K on them.

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Mike Marlow

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:11 pm
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"Mike Y" <joe.RemoveThis@user.com> wrote in message news:ZQwLj.21$4R2.4@newsfe06.lga...
> My 95 Pontiac GrandPrix with 3.1 is surging. Not bad, VERY subtle. I
> have no error codes, other than EGR (I know I have a clog) but the surge
> is under light acceleration, and the EGR shouldn't affect that.
>
> Anyway, I'm gonna try a soak-out of the EGR this weekend if the weather
> is nice and I can work on the car. For the surge issue, I'm thinking
> maybe
> just shotgun with new plugs, and possibly test the wires to see.
>
> Anything else obvious to go for? If plugs don't help, I may just try new
> wires.
> As far as I can tell they are original with 135K on them.
>
>

Plugs and wires would certainly be in order for that car then. If that does
not fix it, check the TPS adjustment.

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-Mike-
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:15 am
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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE DeleteThis @alltel.net> wrote in message
news:7e5d0$47feb7a6$45289785$30782@ALLTEL.NET...
>
> "Mike Y" <joe DeleteThis @user.com> wrote in message
news:ZQwLj.21$4R2.4@newsfe06.lga...
> > My 95 Pontiac GrandPrix with 3.1 is surging. Not bad, VERY subtle. I
> > have no error codes, other than EGR (I know I have a clog) but the surge
> > is under light acceleration, and the EGR shouldn't affect that.
> >
> > Anyway, I'm gonna try a soak-out of the EGR this weekend if the weather
> > is nice and I can work on the car. For the surge issue, I'm thinking
> > maybe
> > just shotgun with new plugs, and possibly test the wires to see.
> >
> > Anything else obvious to go for? If plugs don't help, I may just try
new
> > wires.
> > As far as I can tell they are original with 135K on them.
> >
> >
>
> Plugs and wires would certainly be in order for that car then. If that
does
> not fix it, check the TPS adjustment.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE DeleteThis @alltel.net
>
>

Well, I did some work Saturday before a trip and pulled a couple of the
plugs.
They looked fine, as far as I could see. They were Bosch Platinum. No
dirt,
no flaking. The wires were also Bosch Super something or other, and I
didn't
see any signs of cracking or leakage. I didn't go so far as to spray them
with
mist from a Windex bottle and then slide a neon bulb up and down, but they
seemed ok.

Anyway, I also pulled the digital EGR valves off. I started the car and
sprayed
carb cleaner in the intake. It seemed to 'open up' and start sucking. I
put it
back on and no 'service engine soon' light. Until today. Took over 100
miles,
and it came on as I got off the highway and came down an exit ramp after a
50+ mile run. So I may have to do it again.

Oh, I also put some injector cleaner in the tank, and the surging seems to
have
stopped. At least, I didn't notice it. But then, I didn't specifically try
to look
for it or set up the conditions where I know it was more likely to happen.
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