92 Eclipse

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> So does anyone have mitchell1 or some book of that sort so I can
> figure out the labor rate to change out the clutch and flywheel and
> also the labor rate of the timing belt without head removal.
>
> Nirodac wrote:
>> Sorry I couldn't post a reply to your other msg about the timing
>> belt, Xnews wouldn't let me.
>>
>> If your timing belt had jumped a few teeth, the motor would crank but
>> not start
>> If the belt had jumped several teeth the bashing sound would
>> (depending on the engine)
>> be continuos as the pistons beat themselves against your valves (a
>> very bad thing)
>> If the belt was totally gone, same bashing sound, but constantly, as
>> you cranked the engine. BUT, the differance between a
>> timing belt going and a starter motor problem (as in your case) is
>> that your accessory belt is intermittantly turning.
>> It is driven from the crank shaft pully, which is cranked by the
>> starter motor. It should always turn when your cranking the engine,
>> assuming of course that whatever it is driving hasn't seized up.
>> Usually there is an plastic cover at one end of the valve cover that
>> comes off and exposes the timing belt.
>>
>> Sorry I couldn't post a reply to your other msg about the timing
>> belt, Xnews wouldn't let me.
>>
>> If your timing belt had jumped a few teeth, the motor would crank but
>> not start
>> If the belt had jumped several teeth the bashing sound would
>> (depending on the engine)
>> be continuos as the pistons beat themselves against your valves (a
>> very bad thing)
>> If the belt was totally gone, same bashing sound (depending on
>> engine), but constantly, as you cranked the engine. BUT, the
>> differance between a timing belt going and a starter motor problem
>> (as in your case) is that your accessory belt is intermittantly
>> turning. It is driven from the crank shaft pully, which is cranked by
>> the starter motor. It should always turn when your cranking the
>> engine, assuming of course that whatever it is driving hasn't seized
>> up. Usually there is an plastic cover at one end of the valve cover
>> that comes off and exposes the timing belt.
>>
>>
>>
>> wrote in
Personnally, I would worry about the engine 1st, before I would worry
about the clutch. Check the timing belt alignment, check the starter
motor, then check the compression. You can learn lots from compression
tests.




>> @m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > I just purchased a nice eclipse for 150 it is a 92. When I say
>> > nice I mean the body and the interior is nice. The car however
>> > does not start. I was told the car needs clutch. When I went to
>> > pick up the title and keys I attempted to start it. When the car
>> > is in neutral and the clutch is depressed it will whirl and
>> > sometimes a metal clunking noise is made. I had the previous owner
>> > do this while I watched I noticed when it just whirls the accessory
>> > belt does not turn when it clunks the belt turns a little. If you
>> > try to start the car with it in gear and the clutch depressed it
>> > does the same thing except goes forward while doing the whirring
>> > and clunking. Any help would be much appreciated.
>> > Also what components do I need to replace to do a full clutch.
>> >
>> > Clutch set
>> > Pressure Plate
>> > Flywheel and Ring Gear
>> > Master and Slave cyl.
>> > does that sound right? How many labor hours in terms of flat rate.
>> >
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