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Don Gunn

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Since: Sep 16, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:53 pm
Post subject: '85 300TD starert not turning
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OK, my good old 300TD was having difficulty shutting down and I determined
that the vacuum system had a leak. In the process of trouble shooting this I
had to restart the car multiple times. One time the starter just failed to
turn - nothing at all, just a little click, like a relay closing, coming
from the area of the glove box. Multiple tries and nothing doing. The
battery and all connections checked good, and I could see that when turning
the key to the start position that there was no load being put on the
battery. After checking everything I could think of I gave up for a few
hours and then this time the car started right up! I decided that there must
be a thermal cut out on the starter, or something like that, and that life
was good. When I went to start the car this morning, nothing doing, just
that little click by the glove box, but no turning or sound from the starter
at all...

HELP!

Don

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T.G. Lambach

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:51 pm
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Several possibilities, in order of cost and difficulty:

Shift the transmission to D and back to N or P to test the neutral
safety switch. OK, that was a dream, on to the battery.

If the battery is > 4 years old it's suspect. My M-B battery failed
within one week of 4 years, so don't dismiss it or....

A new starter is needed. To determine that possibility, the other two
possibilities have already been eliminated, so hit the
starter motor with a 2 x 4 whenever it fails to turn - eventually that
won't work either but you'll know that the starter is the culprit!

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:55 pm
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"T.G. Lambach" wrote in message

> Several possibilities, in order of cost and difficulty:
>
> Shift the transmission to D and back to N or P to test the neutral
> safety switch. OK, that was a dream, on to the battery.
>
> If the battery is > 4 years old it's suspect. My M-B battery failed
> within one week of 4 years, so don't dismiss it or....
>
> A new starter is needed. To determine that possibility, the other
> two possibilities have already been eliminated, so hit the
> starter motor with a 2 x 4 whenever it fails to turn - eventually
> that won't work either but you'll know that the starter is the
> culprit!


On my 83 it was possible (and cheaper) to but the solenoid only.
Pulling the starter itself was a bear because the damn thing was so
heavy, but replacing the solenoid once the starter was out was
straightforward. If you do it yourself make sure the cables and
washers go back in the same way, and coat the terminals with a little
dielectric grease.
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Tiger

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:40 am
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No.. the selenoid way only delay the replacement of the starter. Twice the
amount of work.
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