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Vic Dura

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:14 am
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Is anybody using 5w-30 motor oil in their Focus? Any problems with it?
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Chris Whelan3

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:55 am
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Vic Dura wrote:

> Is anybody using 5w-30 motor oil in their Focus?

Yes. (In UK)

> Any problems with it?

Why would there be?

Chris

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:12 am
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I have used Amsoil Synthetic 5W30 oil with no problems on my '02 Focus SE (Station Wagon). One oil change per year (Amsoil suggested schedule) and now 87000 miles. Almost no oil used between changes. One quarts added for the 6 month filter change. (1 quart).

USA, Southeastern Michigan.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:22 am
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 09:22:42 GMT, Chris Whelan
wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil:

>Vic Dura wrote:
>
>> Is anybody using 5w-30 motor oil in their Focus?
>
>Yes. (In UK)
>
>> Any problems with it?
>
>Why would there be?

I was just wondering. I can't think of why there would be a problem,
but I'm not expert on these matters. I'm in the U.S. with a new Focus
(2005) and planning to use the 5w30 instead of the 5w20 because I
can't find the 5w20 in gallon containers locally.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:55 am
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Vic Dura wrote:

> On Sun, 21 recommendedd9:22:42 GMT, Chris Whelan
> wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil:
>
>>Vic Dura wrote:
>>
>>> Is anybody using 5w-30 motor oil in their Focus?
>>
>>Yes. (In UK)
>>
>>> Any problems with it?
>>
>>Why would there be?
>
> I was just wondering. I can't think of why there would be a problem,
> but I'm not expert on these matters. I'm in the U.S. with a new Focus
> (2005) and planning to use the 5w30 instead of the 5w20 because I
> can't find the 5w20 in gallon containers locally.

I see. In Europe, 5w30 semi- or fully-synthetic is the recommended grade.
The change interval is 12,500 miles, which is probably a bit higher than in
the U.S.

Chris

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 12:48 pm
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 14:39:30 GMT, Chris Whelan
wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil:

>Vic Dura wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 recommendedd9:22:42 GMT, Chris Whelan
>> wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil:
>>
>>>Vic Dura wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is anybody using 5w-30 motor oil in their Focus?
>>>
>>>Yes. (In UK)
>>>
>>>> Any problems with it?
>>>
>>>Why would there be?
>>
>> I was just wondering. I can't think of why there would be a problem,
>> but I'm not expert on these matters. I'm in the U.S. with a new Focus
>> (2005) and planning to use the 5w30 instead of the 5w20 because I
>> can't find the 5w20 in gallon containers locally.
>
>I see. In Europe, 5w30 semi- or fully-synthetic is the recommended grade.
>The change interval is 12,500 miles, which is probably a bit higher than in
>the U.S.
>

That's interesting. In the U.S. the recommendations are 5w20 oil with
a change interval ranging from 3,000 miles for mostly urban driving to
7,000 miles for mostly "highway" driving. I seem to recall the owner's
manual mentioning a longer interval for the synthetic oils but don't
recall off-hand what it is.

BTW, since you are in the U.K. I wonder if I might ask if Sunbeam and
Truimph autos are still made there? I don't follow autos much any more
but my first car was a 1961 Sunbeam Alpine I purchased in 1965 and my
second car was a 1965 Triumph TR4 that I purchased in 1968.

I loved both of those cars.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:55 pm
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In alt.autos.ford.focus Vic Dura :
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 14:39:30 GMT, Chris Whelan
> wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil:

>>Vic Dura wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 21 recommendedd9:22:42 GMT, Chris Whelan
>>> wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil:
>>>
>>>>Vic Dura wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is anybody using 5w-30 motor oil in their Focus?
>>>>
>>>>Yes. (In UK)
>>>>
>>>>> Any problems with it?
>>>>
>>>>Why would there be?
>>>
>>> I was just wondering. I can't think of why there would be a problem,
>>> but I'm not expert on these matters. I'm in the U.S. with a new Focus
>>> (2005) and planning to use the 5w30 instead of the 5w20 because I
>>> can't find the 5w20 in gallon containers locally.
>>
>>I see. In Europe, 5w30 semi- or fully-synthetic is the recommended grade.
>>The change interval is 12,500 miles, which is probably a bit higher than in
>>the U.S.

AFAIK 5w30 full-synthetic once a year or every 20000 km (~12500
miles) whatever comes first for petrol engines.

> That's interesting. In the U.S. the recommendations are 5w20 oil with
> a change interval ranging from 3,000 miles for mostly urban driving to
> 7,000 miles for mostly "highway" driving. I seem to recall the owner's
> manual mentioning a longer interval for the synthetic oils but don't
> recall off-hand what it is.

Curious, had a Ford Sierra turbo diesel before and it had smaller
interval as usual for a diesel engine 10000 km (~6250 miles)
oil+filter. Always went with the recommendation, it had done
about 240000km (~150000 miles) when I bought the Focus and the
engine was still running like new.

But then, any Ford owned by me was almost fallen apart from rust,
while the engine was still running like a charm. Don't expect the
Focus to behave any different. Had already fixed rust on the rear
door (Ghia wagon) by Ford through rust warranty. 12 years can be
pretty long, so we'll see what comes next?

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:55 pm
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I have used ordinary 5W30 oil for the last 5 years in my 2001 Zetec Focus.
With no problems.

In hot climates 10W30 should be used.

Ford specifies 5W20 so as to meet CAFE requirements as far a fuel
efficiency, apparently you can get about .01% more miles to the gallon. Big
deal. This is a no brainer on what to use 5W20 oil is at least double the
price of regular 5W30, same protection..
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:55 pm
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:04:01 GMT, "Henri"
wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil OK:

>I have used ordinary 5W30 oil for the last 5 years in my 2001 Zetec Focus.
>With no problems.
>
>In hot climates 10W30 should be used.
>
>Ford specifies 5W20 so as to meet CAFE requirements as far a fuel
>efficiency, apparently you can get about .01% more miles to the gallon. Big
>deal. This is a no brainer on what to use 5W20 oil is at least double the
>price of regular 5W30, same protection..

That about what I would guess, but as I mentioned in a previous post I
don't have any specific knowledge in the matter so I wanted to ask
here.

I guess when you are trying to make up of the big SUVs, every little
bit helps (them) regardless of how it effects us.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:55 pm
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Vic Dura wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:04:01 GMT, "Henri"
> wrote Re Re: 5w-30 oil OK:
>
>
>>I have used ordinary 5W30 oil for the last 5 years in my 2001 Zetec Focus.
>>With no problems.
>>
>>In hot climates 10W30 should be used.
>>
>>Ford specifies 5W20 so as to meet CAFE requirements as far a fuel
>>efficiency, apparently you can get about .01% more miles to the gallon. Big
>>deal. This is a no brainer on what to use 5W20 oil is at least double the
>>price of regular 5W30, same protection..
>
>
> That about what I would guess, but as I mentioned in a previous post I
> don't have any specific knowledge in the matter so I wanted to ask
> here.
>
> I guess when you are trying to make up of the big SUVs, every little
> bit helps (them) regardless of how it effects us.
>
> Thanks for the comments.
Doesn't anything other than 5W20 invaliate the drivetrain warranty? Just
asking?

Ron
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:09 pm
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"Ron Joiner" wrote in message

> Vic Dura wrote:

>> Thanks for the comments.
> Doesn't anything other than 5W20 invaliate the drivetrain warranty? Just
> asking?
>

If you were to go to your dealer for an oil change, they will more than
likely use 5w30 unless you agree to pay a premium for 5w20.
This happened to me and I asked the service manager and he said 5w30 is A-ok
for the car.

> Ron
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:08 pm
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:55 am
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> :>Doesn't anything other than 5W20 invaliate the drivetrain warranty? Just
> :>asking?
> :>
> :>Ron
>
> Technically yes. BTW, SVT states to only use 5W30 on the SVTF engine.
> I don't know if this is also true for the European ST-170 but I
> understand if uses pretty much the same engine as the US SVTF.
> Unfortunately, at least on the SVTF, that information is in a
> supplement to the owner's manual and a lot of people have missed that
> requirement. BTW, I've had mine in for service twice now at 2
> different "SVT Dealers" and both of them would have put 5W20 in if I
> hadn't stopped them.
>
> me/2


Er..No.

I have a 1.6LX (2001) (UK) - the manual specifically states 5w30...
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:55 am
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Here in germany you must use 5W30 in all focus motors
Never heard from 5W20 ???


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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:56 pm
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"Norbert Völkel" wrote:
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> Here in germany you must use 5W30 in all focus motors
> Never heard from 5W20 ???

I believe this requirement is on US cars only. The oil cap of
my US ZX3 2.0 Zetec says 5 W-20 as well as in the manual. I
have used 5 W-30 when 5 W-20 was not available at the retailer
I normally use to purchase motor oil and filters.

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