57 Fairlane with Ford wire wheels

On May 26, 12:22 am, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <t....TakeThisOut@toybox.placo.com> wrote:
> "fairlane" <usn....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > I just bought a 1957 Fairlane that has Ford wire wheels on it. I'm not
> > sure if they are period original or a reproduction, but I'd guess
> > reproduction because they are so nice. While checking the tire
> > pressures one of the valve stems broke and needs to be replaced. I
> > don't know how to remove the little hubcap cover that covers up the
> > lug nuts. It appears to be just a very thin groove that goes all the
> > way around it. Am I just supposed to try and stick something in there
> > and pry it off? I'm afraid to just try that because I don't want to
> > damage or scuff the wheels at all, they look so nice. Help! Thanks!
>
> To replace a valve stem requires dismounting the tire, do you have
> tire mounting and dismounting equipment at home?
>
> The tire store guys will know how to take the cover off.
>
> Ted

I know, I need to take the tire off the car to drive it to the tire
store. I can't drive the car down there because the tire won't hold
air.
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"fairlane" <usndmc.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 26, 12:22 am, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <t....RemoveThis@toybox.placo.com> wrote:
> > "fairlane" <usn....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > news:2a9b2034-0127-42d0-a6db-31b88b1c5a80@x1g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > I just bought a 1957 Fairlane that has Ford wire wheels on it. I'm not
> > > sure if they are period original or a reproduction, but I'd guess
> > > reproduction because they are so nice. While checking the tire
> > > pressures one of the valve stems broke and needs to be replaced. I
> > > don't know how to remove the little hubcap cover that covers up the
> > > lug nuts. It appears to be just a very thin groove that goes all the
> > > way around it. Am I just supposed to try and stick something in there
> > > and pry it off? I'm afraid to just try that because I don't want to
> > > damage or scuff the wheels at all, they look so nice. Help! Thanks!
> >
> > To replace a valve stem requires dismounting the tire, do you have
> > tire mounting and dismounting equipment at home?
> >
> > The tire store guys will know how to take the cover off.
> >
> > Ted
>
> I know, I need to take the tire off the car to drive it to the tire
> store. I can't drive the car down there because the tire won't hold
> air.

Wire wheel covers are either held on by a bolt that passes
through the center of the cover and is covered by an emblem that
you snap off, or the wheel cover itself snaps off. If you can post
a picture of it somewhere, then someone might recognize it. Or,
take a picture of it, drive to the tire store, show them the picture
and someone should know how to remove it.

If it's a bolt covered by an emblem, it might also need a special
wrench to get it off.

Ted
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On May 26, 9:48 am, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <t... DeleteThis @toybox.placo.com> wrote:
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> > On May 26, 12:22 am, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <t... DeleteThis @toybox.placo.com> wrote:
> > > "fairlane" <usn... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > >news:2a9b2034-0127-42d0-a6db-31b88b1c5a80@x1g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
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> > > > I just bought a 1957 Fairlane that has Ford wire wheels on it. I'm not
> > > > sure if they are period original or a reproduction, but I'd guess
> > > > reproduction because they are so nice. While checking the tire
> > > > pressures one of the valve stems broke and needs to be replaced. I
> > > > don't know how to remove the little hubcap cover that covers up the
> > > > lug nuts. It appears to be just a very thin groove that goes all the
> > > > way around it. Am I just supposed to try and stick something in there
> > > > and pry it off? I'm afraid to just try that because I don't want to
> > > > damage or scuff the wheels at all, they look so nice. Help! Thanks!
>
> > > To replace a valve stem requires dismounting the tire, do you have
> > > tire mounting and dismounting equipment at home?
>
> > > The tire store guys will know how to take the cover off.
>
> > > Ted
>
> > I know, I need to take the tire off the car to drive it to the tire
> > store. I can't drive the car down there because the tire won't hold
> > air.
>
> Wire wheel covers are either held on by a bolt that passes
> through the center of the cover and is covered by an emblem that
> you snap off, or the wheel cover itself snaps off. If you can post
> a picture of it somewhere, then someone might recognize it. Or,
> take a picture of it, drive to the tire store, show them the picture
> and someone should know how to remove it.
>
> If it's a bolt covered by an emblem, it might also need a special
> wrench to get it off.
>
> Ted

If you go to this site and scroll down there is a close up of the
wheel of the car.

http://www.dreamcarclassicsonline.com/cgi/displaydetails.pl?stockno=00...2722&al

Mine look exactly like that but with a Ford emblem in the middle where
this one is just plain. I can't see how only the emblem would come
out. I have tried grabbing the spinners to try and unscrew the cover,
and pulled straight out on them too. I can't see anywhere on the tiny
lip surrounding the cover where you could pry without scratching or
denting the wheel.
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On May 25, 11:33 pm, fairlane <usn....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

Help! Thanks!

Did you ever think about calling up the previous owner on the
telephone and asking him/her?
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"fairlane" <usndmc.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 26, 9:48 am, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <t....TakeThisOut@toybox.placo.com> wrote:
> > "fairlane" <usn....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:d10a5130-fbbc-4a50-93e1-5d1cc02be9c5@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
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> >
> >
> > > On May 26, 12:22 am, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <t....TakeThisOut@toybox.placo.com> wrote:
> > > > "fairlane" <usn....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >
>news:2a9b2034-0127-42d0-a6db-31b88b1c5a80@x1g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > > > I just bought a 1957 Fairlane that has Ford wire wheels on it. I'm
not
> > > > > sure if they are period original or a reproduction, but I'd guess
> > > > > reproduction because they are so nice. While checking the tire
> > > > > pressures one of the valve stems broke and needs to be replaced. I
> > > > > don't know how to remove the little hubcap cover that covers up
the
> > > > > lug nuts. It appears to be just a very thin groove that goes all
the
> > > > > way around it. Am I just supposed to try and stick something in
there
> > > > > and pry it off? I'm afraid to just try that because I don't want
to
> > > > > damage or scuff the wheels at all, they look so nice. Help!
Thanks!
> >
> > > > To replace a valve stem requires dismounting the tire, do you have
> > > > tire mounting and dismounting equipment at home?
> >
> > > > The tire store guys will know how to take the cover off.
> >
> > > > Ted
> >
> > > I know, I need to take the tire off the car to drive it to the tire
> > > store. I can't drive the car down there because the tire won't hold
> > > air.
> >
> > Wire wheel covers are either held on by a bolt that passes
> > through the center of the cover and is covered by an emblem that
> > you snap off, or the wheel cover itself snaps off. If you can post
> > a picture of it somewhere, then someone might recognize it. Or,
> > take a picture of it, drive to the tire store, show them the picture
> > and someone should know how to remove it.
> >
> > If it's a bolt covered by an emblem, it might also need a special
> > wrench to get it off.
> >
> > Ted
>
> If you go to this site and scroll down there is a close up of the
> wheel of the car.
>
>
http://www.dreamcarclassicsonline.com/cgi/displaydetails.pl?stockno=00...2722&al
>
> Mine look exactly like that but with a Ford emblem in the middle where
> this one is just plain. I can't see how only the emblem would come
> out. I have tried grabbing the spinners to try and unscrew the cover,
> and pulled straight out on them too. I can't see anywhere on the tiny
> lip surrounding the cover where you could pry without scratching or
> denting the wheel.

Most likely if the covers are repro they use the same system that any
modern Taurus or whatever wheel cover uses, and just pry off. The
spinner unbolts from the back on these.

Look closely on the lip at the edge of the cover and the rubber tire.
Does it overhang the actual steel wheel by 3-5 mm? If so, you put
a prybar under the lip and use the tire as fulcrum and just pry off. The
wheel itself would just be a common steel wheel.

But, there's no guarentees here. Best is to ask the former owner.
Or go to a tire and wheel shop and ask them.

Ted
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"fairlane" <usndmc RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 26, 9:48 am, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <t... RemoveThis @toybox.placo.com> wrote:
> > "fairlane" <usn... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:d10a5130-fbbc-4a50-93e1-5d1cc02be9c5@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > > On May 26, 12:22 am, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <t... RemoveThis @toybox.placo.com> wrote:
> > > > "fairlane" <usn... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >
>news:2a9b2034-0127-42d0-a6db-31b88b1c5a80@x1g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > > > I just bought a 1957 Fairlane that has Ford wire wheels on it. I'm
not
> > > > > sure if they are period original or a reproduction, but I'd guess
> > > > > reproduction because they are so nice. While checking the tire
> > > > > pressures one of the valve stems broke and needs to be replaced. I
> > > > > don't know how to remove the little hubcap cover that covers up
the
> > > > > lug nuts. It appears to be just a very thin groove that goes all
the
> > > > > way around it. Am I just supposed to try and stick something in
there
> > > > > and pry it off? I'm afraid to just try that because I don't want
to
> > > > > damage or scuff the wheels at all, they look so nice. Help!
Thanks!
> >
> > > > To replace a valve stem requires dismounting the tire, do you have
> > > > tire mounting and dismounting equipment at home?
> >
> > > > The tire store guys will know how to take the cover off.
> >
> > > > Ted
> >
> > > I know, I need to take the tire off the car to drive it to the tire
> > > store. I can't drive the car down there because the tire won't hold
> > > air.
> >
> > Wire wheel covers are either held on by a bolt that passes
> > through the center of the cover and is covered by an emblem that
> > you snap off, or the wheel cover itself snaps off. If you can post
> > a picture of it somewhere, then someone might recognize it. Or,
> > take a picture of it, drive to the tire store, show them the picture
> > and someone should know how to remove it.
> >
> > If it's a bolt covered by an emblem, it might also need a special
> > wrench to get it off.
> >
> > Ted
>
> If you go to this site and scroll down there is a close up of the
> wheel of the car.
>
>
http://www.dreamcarclassicsonline.com/cgi/displaydetails.pl?stockno=00...2722&al
>
> Mine look exactly like that but with a Ford emblem in the middle where
> this one is just plain. I can't see how only the emblem would come
> out. I have tried grabbing the spinners to try and unscrew the cover,
> and pulled straight out on them too. I can't see anywhere on the tiny
> lip surrounding the cover where you could pry without scratching or
> denting the wheel.

Most likely if the covers are repro they use the same system that any
modern Taurus or whatever wheel cover uses, and just pry off. The
spinner unbolts from the back on these.

Look closely on the lip at the edge of the cover and the rubber tire.
Does it overhang the actual steel wheel by 3-5 mm? If so, you put
a prybar under the lip and use the tire as fulcrum and just pry off. The
wheel itself would just be a common steel wheel.

But, there's no guarentees here. Best is to ask the former owner.
Or go to a tire and wheel shop and ask them.

Ted
 >> Stay informed about: 57 Fairlane with Ford wire wheels 

clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada wrote in
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> On Mon, 26 May 2008 10:47:26 -0700 (PDT), fairlane <usndmc RemoveThis @gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On May 26, 9:48 am, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <t... RemoveThis @toybox.placo.com> wrote:
>>> "fairlane" <usn... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:d10a5130-fbbc-4a50-93e1-5d1cc02be9c5
@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On May 26, 12:22 am, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <t... RemoveThis @toybox.placo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > "fairlane" <usn... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> > >news:2a9b2034-0127-42d0-a6db-31b88b1c5a80
@x1g2000prh.googlegroups.
>>> > >com...
>>>
>>> > > > I just bought a 1957 Fairlane that has Ford wire wheels on it.
>>> > > > I'm not sure if they are period original or a reproduction,
>>> > > > but I'd guess reproduction because they are so nice. While
>>> > > > checking the tire pressures one of the valve stems broke and
>>> > > > needs to be replaced. I don't know how to remove the little
>>> > > > hubcap cover that covers up the lug nuts. It appears to be
>>> > > > just a very thin groove that goes all the way around it. Am I
>>> > > > just supposed to try and stick something in there and pry it
>>> > > > off? I'm afraid to just try that because I don't want to
>>> > > > damage or scuff the wheels at all, they look so nice. Help!
>>> > > > Thanks!
>>>
>>> > > To replace a valve stem requires dismounting the tire, do you
>>> > > have tire mounting and dismounting equipment at home?
>>>
>>> > > The tire store guys will know how to take the cover off.
>>>
>>> > > Ted
>>>
>>> > I know, I need to take the tire off the car to drive it to the
>>> > tire store. I can't drive the car down there because the tire
>>> > won't hold air.
>>>
>>> Wire wheel covers are either held on by a bolt that passes
>>> through the center of the cover and is covered by an emblem that
>>> you snap off, or the wheel cover itself snaps off. If you can post
>>> a picture of it somewhere, then someone might recognize it. Or,
>>> take a picture of it, drive to the tire store, show them the picture
>>> and someone should know how to remove it.
>>>
>>> If it's a bolt covered by an emblem, it might also need a special
>>> wrench to get it off.
>>>
>>> Ted
>>
>>If you go to this site and scroll down there is a close up of the
>>wheel of the car.
>>
>>http://www.dreamcarclassicsonline.com/cgi/displaydetails.pl?stockno=
003
>>4-2722&allphotos=L02
>>
>
> Those are wire wheel COVERS and the whole shebang comes off the steel
> rim behind it. Comes off like any other full coverage wheel cover -
> very carefully.
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


apparently you did not look at the pics. you can see the brake through
them, they are the real deal. Also it says they are custom wire wheels
not wheel covers. so your advice is not based on anything intelegent.
KB

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On Mon, 26 May 2008 10:47:26, fairlane <usndmc DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 26, 9:48 am, "Ted Mittelstaedt" <t... DeleteThis @toybox.placo.com> wrote:
>> "fairlane" <usn... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote...

>> > I know, I need to take the tire off the car to drive it to the tire
>> > store. I can't drive the car down there because the tire won't hold
>> > air.
>>
>> Wire wheel covers are either held on by a bolt that passes
>> through the center of the cover and is covered by an emblem that
>> you snap off, or the wheel cover itself snaps off. If you can post
>> a picture of it somewhere, then someone might recognize it. Or,
>> take a picture of it, drive to the tire store, show them the picture
>> and someone should know how to remove it.
>>
>> If it's a bolt covered by an emblem, it might also need a special
>> wrench to get it off.
>>
>> Ted
>
>If you go to this site and scroll down there is a close up of the
>wheel of the car.
>
>http://www.dreamcarclassicsonline.com/cgi/displaydetails.pl?stockno=0034-2722&allphotos=L02
>
>Mine look exactly like that but with a Ford emblem in the middle where
>this one is just plain. I can't see how only the emblem would come
>out. I have tried grabbing the spinners to try and unscrew the cover,
>and pulled straight out on them too. I can't see anywhere on the tiny
>lip surrounding the cover where you could pry without scratching or
>denting the wheel.

They look like real wire wheels, and AFAIK the only company left
that does them is Dayton Wire Wheels. www.daytonwirewheel.com

They look like the kind where the hubcap pops off or threads off the
hub to get to the lug nuts. But I'm not sure if it spins off, or
pries off, or... I tried looking through their online catalog and
found nothing - Call and ask. Guessing could get REAL expensive.

The 'Direct Bolt' is the kind from old Model A's where you can see
the lug nuts in between the spokes, this isn't one of those. And the
cap is way too big to be a spline-drive knock-off wheel.

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