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Since: Feb 06, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:07 pm
Post subject: 4x4 Issue on 97 Jimmy
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Two problems have recently started with the 4WD. While driving down the road
the indicator lights on the dash will switch over to the 4 HI light from the
2 HI. Pushing the switch on the dash always takes it back to 2 HI. I really
do not think the transfer case switches as there is absolutely no change in
the way the vehicle operates. The various speeds that it happens has been as
high as 70 + mph or as low as 15 mph (always has happened on paved roads).
This has occurred several times in the past month.

The second occurs while troubleshooting. When I push the switch to go to 4
HI it blinks for 15 seconds then switches back to 2 HI. I can not get it to
engage by using various combinations of shift techniques that are described
in the owners manual. If I engage the 4LO it always shifts into gear and
this is confirmed by driving it. When it does shift into 4 LO the 4HI light
also stays lit steady.

The vehicle is a 97 Jimmy with 205K on it. Went through the 4 WD system last
year. Replaced the front axle indicator switch, vacuum lines, transfer case
switch (3 prong vacuum), and the 4wd dash switch (electrical). Just checked
the 4wd actuator motor (vacuum) that engages he front axle. It works
properly and holds a vacuum (tested with a manual vacuum pump). The only
major items not replaced are the TCCM and the Decoder motor on the transfer
case it self.

I have googled and looked for troubleshooting advice from others with this
similar vehicle and have come to the conclusion that one of the last two
items above is intermittent. The durn items are way expensive and I usually
would not trust electrical items like these from junk yards.

1. Is there a way to reset the TCCM for troubleshooting? I have read a
couple of threads that suggested this but could not determine how except
pulling the power. One talked about pulling fuses and cycling the ign.

2. What is your thoughts on which of the above is intermittent?

3. What else have I missed?

As Always,
TIA
GM

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:21 pm
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:07:00 GMT, "GM"
wrote:

>1. Is there a way to reset the TCCM for troubleshooting? I have read a
>couple of threads that suggested this but could not determine how except
>pulling the power. One talked about pulling fuses and cycling the ign.

Pull TCCM fuse for about 10 minute and replace it and that will reset
it and clear its memory


>2. What is your thoughts on which of the above is intermittent?

It is likely encoder motor or TCCM itself. Push button 4x4 drive
control looks good on paper and is sales brouchure but can be a pain
to grow old with. You have done well to get service life you have out
of it without a major failure as many get a lot less.

>3. What else have I missed?

Not really
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:17 pm
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on Saturday 13 October 2007 09:07 am, someone posing as GM took a rock and
etched into the cave:

> Two problems have recently started with the 4WD. While driving down the
> road the indicator lights on the dash will switch over to the 4 HI light
> from the 2 HI. Pushing the switch on the dash always takes it back to 2
> HI. I really do not think the transfer case switches as there is
> absolutely no change in the way the vehicle operates.

<snip>
>
> 3. What else have I missed?

I doubt anything. like Snoman said, these things are a PITA. I distinctly
remember my '95 Jimmy switching to 4x4 hi on occasion while on the freeway
after I hit roughly 140K miles. Unlike you, my transfer case would engage
and I'd suddenly be driving at 70MPH in 4Hi.

AFAIK, the main culprit is the actuator, which I see you checked. Beyond
that, you may just be having an issue with your TCCM or even one of the
relays. At 10 years and 200K miles you may have some corrosion or rust in
there.

Oh, and I also agree with Snoman on the fact that drive-by-wire 4x4 is a
really bad idea for long term use. I have a manager working for me who has
an '86 Cherokee. The 4x4 on that truck this is brain-dead simple and
apparently bulletproof after some 300K miles.


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:41 pm
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>>1. Is there a way to reset the TCCM for troubleshooting? I have read a
>>couple of threads that suggested this but could not determine how except
>>pulling the power. One talked about pulling fuses and cycling the ign.
>
> Pull TCCM fuse for about 10 minute and replace it and that will reset
> it and clear its memory

It is the TCCM. After a reset, it holds and works as factory designed for
several days, then poof, it goes back to old habits. This is a hard part to
locate either aftermarket or through other channels (pull a part, etc). At
least I can fix it by resetting the unit till I find another.
Thanks
GM
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