454 Chevy Oil Coolant Line Removal

On 29 Jul 2006 08:08:17 -0700, wrote:

>I have a Chevy 4x4 with a 454 engine and I am trying to replace the oil
>coolant lines. I've replace lines on a 350, but these are different.
> On the 350, the lines attach directly into the oil filter adapter and
>have plastic clips that allow removal of the lines by squeezing them
>together. On the 454, the lines attach in front of the adapter, and
>they seem to be held on with a retaining clip.
>
>However, I only know this by looking at the new lines. I can't see
>the retaining clip on the old lines, and it seems that there are large
>nuts holding the lines on. I read elsewhere that all I need to do is
>remove the clips, but yet I can't get at the clips, nor even see
>them.
>
>I've looked in Chilton's manuals, Haynes manuals and scoured the
>web for this information, yet it is not published and I only found one
>weak reference on the web to this issue. Do I need to loosen these
>nuts to expose the clips? If so, are they right or left handed
>threads?
>
>Any help is greatly appreciated!


What year and type truck is this?
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On 29 Jul 2006 14:51:43 -0700, wrote:

>SnoMan wrote:
>
>> What year and type truck is this?
>> -----------------
>
>1991, 3500 4x4 Chevy Silverado, dual axle, 7.4 liter 454 big block.
>The nose of the truck is slightly pointed (vs. straight flat across).
>I only mention the body style because it was a question asked to me
>when I bought the hoses.

Okay, here is the confusuion. You have a old body style truck. 3500
dualies 91 and earlier were built on same chassis as pre 88 trucks and
those had bolted in oil cooler lines (my 89 burb has this style
because it is older body style) 88 and newer LD trucks used clip in as
did 92 and newer 3500's. (my 2000 K3500 which is the same body style
as 88 to 99 LD trucks or 92 to 99 HD models has clip ins too) Do you
follow me here? (they do screw into radiator tank though)
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SnoMan wrote:
> On 29 Jul 2006 14:51:43 -0700, wrote:
>
> >SnoMan wrote:
> >
> >> What year and type truck is this?
> >> -----------------
> >
> >1991, 3500 4x4 Chevy Silverado, dual axle, 7.4 liter 454 big block.
> >The nose of the truck is slightly pointed (vs. straight flat across).
> >I only mention the body style because it was a question asked to me
> >when I bought the hoses.
>
> Okay, here is the confusuion. You have a old body style truck. 3500
> dualies 91 and earlier were built on same chassis as pre 88 trucks and
> those had bolted in oil cooler lines (my 89 burb has this style
> because it is older body style) 88 and newer LD trucks used clip in as
> did 92 and newer 3500's. (my 2000 K3500 which is the same body style
> as 88 to 99 LD trucks or 92 to 99 HD models has clip ins too) Do you
> follow me here? (they do screw into radiator tank though)
> -----------------
> The SnoMan
> www.thesnoman.com

Hmmm. Okay, I do follow. From what you are saying my truck should
have bolt on lines. However, I gave the GM dealer my VIN number and
the part I received has clip on ends. After I got home I compared the
lines. They are slightly different from my old ones, and I brought
them back thinking they were incorrect. He double checked again and
the same parts came up.

When I look under the truck, I see big bolts where these lines attach.
The only way to remove these bolts was to remove the oil filter adapter
as well, and because it didn't look like it was leaking, I didn't want
to do that extra work for nothing (this is another mystery, the adapter
seems to have square holes on the two bolts ends holding it in, the
kind you would put a ratchet adapter into to remove them, but they are
smaller than 3/8" and bigger than 1/4").

I'm starting to wonder if I'm going to have to take off the adapter and
try to crank on those nuts and see what happens. If it works I can
bring the part back to the dealer and clear up this confusion.

Assuming it is a bolt on, does the nut screw back up towards the body
of the truck, or do I unscrew it down towards the oil line and remove
it with the line?

Thanks for your help, by the way. I can't understand why there aren't
any books mentioning this very straightforward area.
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On 31 Jul 2006 09:43:18 -0700, wrote:

>SnoMan wrote:
>> On 29 Jul 2006 14:51:43 -0700, wrote:
>>
>> >SnoMan wrote:
>> >
>> >> What year and type truck is this?
>> >> -----------------
>> >
>> >1991, 3500 4x4 Chevy Silverado, dual axle, 7.4 liter 454 big block.
>> >The nose of the truck is slightly pointed (vs. straight flat across).
>> >I only mention the body style because it was a question asked to me
>> >when I bought the hoses.
>>
>> Okay, here is the confusuion. You have a old body style truck. 3500
>> dualies 91 and earlier were built on same chassis as pre 88 trucks and
>> those had bolted in oil cooler lines (my 89 burb has this style
>> because it is older body style) 88 and newer LD trucks used clip in as
>> did 92 and newer 3500's. (my 2000 K3500 which is the same body style
>> as 88 to 99 LD trucks or 92 to 99 HD models has clip ins too) Do you
>> follow me here? (they do screw into radiator tank though)
>> -----------------
>> The SnoMan
>> www.thesnoman.com
>
>Hmmm. Okay, I do follow. From what you are saying my truck should
>have bolt on lines. However, I gave the GM dealer my VIN number and
>the part I received has clip on ends. After I got home I compared the
>lines. They are slightly different from my old ones, and I brought
>them back thinking they were incorrect. He double checked again and
>the same parts came up.
>
>When I look under the truck, I see big bolts where these lines attach.
>The only way to remove these bolts was to remove the oil filter adapter
>as well, and because it didn't look like it was leaking, I didn't want
>to do that extra work for nothing (this is another mystery, the adapter
>seems to have square holes on the two bolts ends holding it in, the
>kind you would put a ratchet adapter into to remove them, but they are
>smaller than 3/8" and bigger than 1/4").
>
>I'm starting to wonder if I'm going to have to take off the adapter and
>try to crank on those nuts and see what happens. If it works I can
>bring the part back to the dealer and clear up this confusion.
>
>Assuming it is a bolt on, does the nut screw back up towards the body
>of the truck, or do I unscrew it down towards the oil line and remove
>it with the line?
>
>Thanks for your help, by the way. I can't understand why there aren't
>any books mentioning this very straightforward area.


GM kinda muddied up the water when they made trucks on two different
chassis at the same time from 88 to 91 and again in 99 and 2000. I
have had a few parts issues with my 2000 K3500 because it is not a
Silverado chassis. WIthout seeing it (a picture is worth a lot here)
it realy sounds like what I have on my 89 4x4 burb as they bolt into
housing adaptor between filter and block with flange nuts to hold them
in. I had to replace one line on my 2000 K3500 last winter and it was
held in on engine end with a clip. On my 2000 the cooler is in tank
ond on 89 it is a external unit that year from the factory. It is 94
here right now and I will go out and look under my two trucks later
when it cools or in the morning if need be.
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