Ferrari 355 and Berlinetta

"matt borland" <mborland RemoveThis @columbus.rr.com> wrote

> If you see a "GTB", "SWB", etc. the 'B' is for Berlinetta.

ex-squeeze me, but I think the latter is actually 'Short Wheel Base', is
it not? as in 250 SWB?

....and I *think* GTB is 'Great To Buy!', usually applied to a model at
the end of it's life, indicating a run-out incentive package. 'Great To
Buy!' variants usualy were packed with extras to help boost their appeal
to a wider market- such things as custom clip-on wheel covers, animal
print seat covers, extra chrome, a sub-woofer, dual cup holder, vouchers
for free 'happy meals', that sort of thing.

MCPD - Noted Ferrari historian
(looks nervously around for T308)
 >> Stay informed about: Ferrari 355 and Berlinetta 

matt borland wrote:
> <williammaw DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1128725388.305897.142060@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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>>Those who know Ferraris, is a 355 the same as a Berlinetta?
>>
>>Thanks ...
>
>
>
> The term Berlinetta is used on several models to describe a
> coupe without a removable panel.
>
>
> So some 355s are Berlinettas, but not all Berlinettas are 355s.
>
>
> If you see a "GTB", "SWB", etc. the 'B' is for Berlinetta.
>
>
> -Matt- "..."
>
>
Hmmm, and all these years, I thought the SWB was for Short Wheel Base.

J
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Paul Duffin wrote:
> "matt borland" <mborland DeleteThis @columbus.rr.com> wrote
>
>
>>If you see a "GTB", "SWB", etc. the 'B' is for Berlinetta.
>
>
> ex-squeeze me, but I think the latter is actually 'Short Wheel Base', is
> it not? as in 250 SWB?
>
> ...and I *think* GTB is 'Great To Buy!', usually applied to a model at
> the end of it's life, indicating a run-out incentive package. 'Great To
> Buy!' variants usualy were packed with extras to help boost their appeal
> to a wider market- such things as custom clip-on wheel covers, animal
> print seat covers, extra chrome, a sub-woofer, dual cup holder, vouchers
> for free 'happy meals', that sort of thing.
>
> MCPD - Noted Ferrari historian
> (looks nervously around for T308)
>
>
So GTC would be Great to Covet? Just a little higher priced than the
GTB and out of reach?

J
 >> Stay informed about: Ferrari 355 and Berlinetta 

"gsd" <gsd.RemoveThis@hotmail.com.fr> wrote

>> ...and I *think* GTB is 'Great To Buy!', usually applied to a model
>> at the end of it's life, indicating a run-out incentive package.
>> 'Great To Buy!' variants usualy were packed with extras to help boost
>> their appeal to a wider market- such things as custom clip-on wheel
>> covers, animal print seat covers, extra chrome, a sub-woofer, dual
>> cup holder, vouchers for free 'happy meals', that sort of thing.
>>
>> MCPD - Noted Ferrari historian
>> (looks nervously around for T308)
>>
>>
> So GTC would be Great to Covet? Just a little higher priced than the
> GTB and out of reach?

Yes. That's exactly correct.

Paul -Very expert Ferrari historian
(Phew! still no sign of T308)
 >> Stay informed about: Ferrari 355 and Berlinetta 

"gsd" <gsd.DeleteThis@hotmail.com.fr> wrote in message
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> matt borland wrote:
> > <williammaw.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1128725388.305897.142060@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >>Those who know Ferraris, is a 355 the same as a Berlinetta?
> >>
> >>Thanks ...
> >
> >
> >
> > The term Berlinetta is used on several models to describe a
> > coupe without a removable panel.
> >
> >
> > So some 355s are Berlinettas, but not all Berlinettas are 355s.
> >
> >
> > If you see a "GTB", "SWB", etc. the 'B' is for Berlinetta.
> >
> >
> > -Matt- "..."
> >
> >
> Hmmm, and all these years, I thought the SWB was for Short Wheel Base.
>
> J


Fellas, it stands for "Short Wheelbase Berlinetta"...



-Matt- "Noted Ferrari historian, my (_|_)!"
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"Paul Duffin" <someone RemoveThis @somewhere.com> wrote in message
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> "matt borland" <mborland RemoveThis @columbus.rr.com> wrote
>
>> If you see a "GTB", "SWB", etc. the 'B' is for Berlinetta.
>
> ex-squeeze me, but I think the latter is actually 'Short Wheel Base', is
> it not? as in 250 SWB?
>
> ...and I *think* GTB is 'Great To Buy!',

and GTS....?????

(Sadly, the first thing that came to mind was "Great to scrap"!!!)

I.
 >> Stay informed about: Ferrari 355 and Berlinetta 

Paul Duffin wrote:
> "matt borland" <mborland DeleteThis @columbus.rr.com> wrote
>
>
>>If you see a "GTB", "SWB", etc. the 'B' is for Berlinetta.
>
>
> ex-squeeze me, but I think the latter is actually 'Short Wheel Base', is
> it not? as in 250 SWB?

You are an expert!


> ...and I *think* GTB is 'Great To Buy!', usually applied to a model at
> the end of it's life, indicating a run-out incentive package. 'Great To
> Buy!' variants usualy were packed with extras to help boost their appeal
> to a wider market- such things as custom clip-on wheel covers, animal
> print seat covers, extra chrome, a sub-woofer, dual cup holder, vouchers
> for free 'happy meals', that sort of thing.
>
> MCPD - Noted Ferrari historian
> (looks nervously around for T308)


You rang?

GTB means (if you bought one in 2001) "Goin' to Bank".

T308
(Who can't believe that he passed on a nice yellow GTB in 2001 because
it was "too expensive")

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 >> Stay informed about: Ferrari 355 and Berlinetta 

matt borland wrote:
> "gsd" <gsd RemoveThis @hotmail.com.fr> wrote in message
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>
>>matt borland wrote:
>>
>>><williammaw RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1128725388.305897.142060@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Those who know Ferraris, is a 355 the same as a Berlinetta?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The term Berlinetta is used on several models to describe a
>>>coupe without a removable panel.
>>>
>>>
>>>So some 355s are Berlinettas, but not all Berlinettas are 355s.
>>>
>>>
>>>If you see a "GTB", "SWB", etc. the 'B' is for Berlinetta.
>>>
>>>
>>>-Matt- "..."
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Hmmm, and all these years, I thought the SWB was for Short Wheel Base.
>>
>>J
>
>
>
> Fellas, it stands for "Short Wheelbase Berlinetta"...
>

And that means cars like S/N 2407, a 400SA SWB Cab, is a
"400 Superamerica Short Wheelbase Berlinetta Cabriolet"??

T308
(Who knows that Ferrari nomenclature is anything but consistent..)
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Iain Miller wrote:
> "Paul Duffin" <someone RemoveThis @somewhere.com> wrote in message
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>>"matt borland" <mborland RemoveThis @columbus.rr.com> wrote
>>
>>
>>>If you see a "GTB", "SWB", etc. the 'B' is for Berlinetta.
>>
>>ex-squeeze me, but I think the latter is actually 'Short Wheel Base', is
>>it not? as in 250 SWB?
>>
>>...and I *think* GTB is 'Great To Buy!',
>
>
> and GTS....?????
>
> (Sadly, the first thing that came to mind was "Great to scrap"!!!)
>
> I.
>
>
"Great to Sell"!

T308
(Who is selling his 308 GTS!!)

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 >> Stay informed about: Ferrari 355 and Berlinetta 

matt borland wrote:
> "gsd" <gsd RemoveThis @hotmail.com.fr> wrote in message
> news:5qQ1f.1730$Hm3.527@fe09.lga...
>
>>matt borland wrote:
>>
>>><williammaw RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1128725388.305897.142060@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Those who know Ferraris, is a 355 the same as a Berlinetta?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The term Berlinetta is used on several models to describe a
>>>coupe without a removable panel.
>>>
>>>
>>>So some 355s are Berlinettas, but not all Berlinettas are 355s.
>>>
>>>
>>>If you see a "GTB", "SWB", etc. the 'B' is for Berlinetta.
>>>
>>>
>>>-Matt- "..."
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Hmmm, and all these years, I thought the SWB was for Short Wheel Base.
>>
>>J
>
>
>
> Fellas, it stands for "Short Wheelbase Berlinetta"...
>
>
>
> -Matt- "Noted Ferrari historian, my (_|_)!"

As far as the factory was concerned, the "250 SWB" was a 250/GT
Berlinetta (Lusso or Comp) with a 2400mm wheelbase. "SWB" is a nice
descriptor, but since they didn't speak much English in Maranello, 250
CIB (Corto Interasse Berlinetta) would have been more likely.

T308
(Who is a LWB.....)


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I think you are correct. Here's a 456 GT Berlinetta on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-Ferrari-456GT-Berlinetta_W0QQitemZ...1292211

Cheers ...


matt borland wrote:
> <williammaw.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1128725388.305897.142060@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Those who know Ferraris, is a 355 the same as a Berlinetta?
> >
> > Thanks ...
>
>
> The term Berlinetta is used on several models to describe a
> coupe without a removable panel.
>
>
> So some 355s are Berlinettas, but not all Berlinettas are 355s.
>
>
> If you see a "GTB", "SWB", etc. the 'B' is for Berlinetta.
>
>
> -Matt- "..."
 >> Stay informed about: Ferrari 355 and Berlinetta