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jb

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:42 pm
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My car all of a sudden wouldn't start for me. So, I looked under the
hood to find that the belt was dead loose. The spring in the belt
tensioner has broken. Is there anything that would prevent my 1988 300E
from starting due to lack of tension on the belt or am I in for more
fun? Thanks for your thoughts.

JB
99 E55
88 300E

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:42 pm
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On Sep 13, 9:42 pm, jb wrote:
> My car all of a sudden wouldn't start for me. So, I looked under the
> hood to find that the belt was dead loose. The spring in the belt
> tensioner has broken. Is there anything that would prevent my 1988 300E
> from starting due to lack of tension on the belt or am I in for more
> fun? Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> JB
> 99 E55
> 88 300E

What exactly do you mean by it wouldn't start? Does it turn over?
If the alternator belt has come off and the car is run enough for the
battery to discharge, then that would certainly prevent any car from
starting.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:24 am
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:06 pm
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trader4 RemoveThis @optonline.net wrote:
> On Sep 13, 9:42 pm, jb wrote:
>
>> My car all of a sudden wouldn't start for me. So, I looked under the
>>hood to find that the belt was dead loose. The spring in the belt
>>tensioner has broken. Is there anything that would prevent my 1988 300E
>>from starting due to lack of tension on the belt or am I in for more
>>fun? Thanks for your thoughts.
>>
>>JB
>>99 E55
>>88 300E
>
>
> What exactly do you mean by it wouldn't start? Does it turn over?
> If the alternator belt has come off and the car is run enough for the
> battery to discharge, then that would certainly prevent any car from
> starting.
>
No it cranks fine. The battery is strong
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:58 am
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Technically, the car should be able to run without the belt... that is why
MB put such a large battery in the car... so you can continue to drive after
belt or the alternator is shot... for up to 2 hours.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:49 am
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Tiger wrote:
> Technically, the car should be able to run without the belt... that is why
> MB put such a large battery in the car... so you can continue to drive after
> belt or the alternator is shot... for up to 2 hours.
>
>
Thanks Tiger
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:14 am
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On Sep 15, 3:58 pm, "Tiger" wrote:
> Technically, the car should be able to run without the belt... that is why
> MB put such a large battery in the car... so you can continue to drive after
> belt or the alternator is shot... for up to 2 hours.

Yes, it will (or should be able to) run. But water pump will not be
driven, and engine will consequently soon run hot.

So, the starting problem is to be found somewhere else.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:33 pm
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In article , Tiger wrote:
>Technically, the car should be able to run without the belt... that is why
>MB put such a large battery in the car... so you can continue to drive after
>belt or the alternator is shot... for up to 2 hours.
>
>
of course it goes without saying that you'll be watching your
temperature gauge depending on the time of year.....

cheers, guenter
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:44 am
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Doh! I didn't think about that... maybe that's why there is a kill switch to
prevent the engine from running... I guess only the alternator is allowed to
die... but belt requires total shutdown.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:39 pm
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On Sep 17, 4:44 pm, "Tiger" wrote:
> Doh! I didn't think about that... maybe that's why there is a kill switch to
> prevent the engine from running... I guess only the alternator is allowed to
> die... but belt requires total shutdown.

Just curious, what kill switch?
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:37 am
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I am not sure... I would assume they compare the signal of the crank
position sensor with the alternator and air conditioner compressor...
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:08 pm
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Well I personaly alllllways wear a belt when driving an MB. That way
if it lips off, I can just take my belt off and beat the kar with it
until it behaves. Good luck!

mcbrue beltedly under the bridge in the trailer down by the river

06 LS430 Kudzu burner
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:47 pm
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On Sep 21, 1:39 am, Jens wrote:
> On Sep 17, 4:44 pm, "Tiger" wrote:
>
> > Doh! I didn't think about that... maybe that's why there is a kill switch to
> > prevent the engine from running... I guess only the alternator is allowed to
> > die... but belt requires total shutdown.
>
> Just curious, what kill switch?

Don't know about the gas burners, but my diesel has a big STOP sticker
to show where the kill switch is on the engine, its basically just a
fuel cut-off for the diesel engines. Most others have some kind of
switch or lever on the engine (under the hood that is) that will let
you kill it from the engine compartment.
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