|
Next: 1987 Coroalla won't idle.
|
| Author |
Message |
Joined: Jan 28, 2007
Posts: 2
|
(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:54 am
Post subject: 240 timing belt busted
|
|
|
|
| My 88 240 gently coasted to a halt recently and I discovered that the timing belt had busted. No nasty crunchy noises were heard from the dying engine. But I have been told that the engine is now beyond economical repair. And yet I discover on other Volvo sites that this may not be the case and some owners have even effected roadside repairs! All opinions will be considered please.
Bob  |
>> Stay informed about: 240 timing belt busted |
|
| Back to top |
|
 | |
External
Since: Jan 28, 2007
Posts: 3
|
(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:44 pm
Post subject: Re: 240 timing belt busted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
In article ,
bildabob wrote:
> My 88 240 gently coasted to a halt recently and I discovered that the
> timing belt had busted. No nasty crunchy noises were heard from the
> dying engine. But I have been told that the engine is now beyond
> economical repair. And yet I discover on other Volvo sites that this
> may not be the case and some owners have even effected roadside
> repairs! All opinions will be considered please.
> Bob
I have an 88 240 which experienced the same unfortunate event. It did no
damage whatever to the engine, and I've been told that (at least for
this model) a broken timing belt will -never- cause damage to the valves
or head. I had my local shop replace the belt and it's been fine ever
since. I'd be very impressed by anyone who can effect a side-of-the-road
fix for this problem! |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Dec 08, 2006
Posts: 2
|
(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:44 pm
Post subject: Re: 240 timing belt busted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
BakersT wrote:
........I had my local shop replace the belt and it's been fine ever
> since. I'd be very impressed by anyone who can effect a side-of-the-road
> fix for this problem!
A side of the road repair could actually be easier than done in a garage
(with poor lighting, or with a trouble light for added light). The
sunlight can provide lots of illumination. The tools are not the issue.
The issue is enough light to see the timing mark on the crankshaft
"pulley". Just some tools - AND a nail to keep the belt tensioner in
place while putting the belt on ...
Naturally, I assume (in my climate) that the work at the side of the
road would be done when the temps are above +10C 
Ken, Canada >> Stay informed about: 240 timing belt busted |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Oct 20, 2005
Posts: 488
|
(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:56 pm
Post subject: Re: 240 timing belt busted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
Tmac-100 wrote:
> BakersT wrote:
> .......I had my local shop replace the belt and it's been fine ever
>
>> since. I'd be very impressed by anyone who can effect a
>> side-of-the-road fix for this problem!
>
>
> A side of the road repair could actually be easier than done in a garage
> (with poor lighting, or with a trouble light for added light). The
> sunlight can provide lots of illumination. The tools are not the issue.
> The issue is enough light to see the timing mark on the crankshaft
> "pulley". Just some tools - AND a nail to keep the belt tensioner in
> place while putting the belt on ...
>
> Naturally, I assume (in my climate) that the work at the side of the
> road would be done when the temps are above +10C
>
The last 240 timing belt replacement I did was out in my driveway using
basic hand tools. It could be done on the side of the road if I happened
to have a socket set in the car. >> Stay informed about: 240 timing belt busted |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Oct 20, 2005
Posts: 488
|
(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:56 pm
Post subject: Re: 240 timing belt busted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
bildabob wrote:
> My 88 240 gently coasted to a halt recently and I discovered that the
> timing belt had busted. No nasty crunchy noises were heard from the
> dying engine. But I have been told that the engine is now beyond
> economical repair. And yet I discover on other Volvo sites that this
> may not be the case and some owners have even effected roadside
> repairs! All opinions will be considered please.
> Bob
>
North American market 240s all have non-interference engines, so a
broken belt will cause no damage. The 16 valve motor used in a few of
the 740s is a different story. >> Stay informed about: 240 timing belt busted |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Oct 30, 2004
Posts: 1802
|
(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:35 pm
Post subject: Re: 240 timing belt busted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
"bildabob" wrote in message
> My 88 240 gently coasted to a halt recently and I discovered that the
> timing belt had busted. No nasty crunchy noises were heard from the
> dying engine. But I have been told that the engine is now beyond
> economical repair. And yet I discover on other Volvo sites that this
> may not be the case and some owners have even effected roadside
> repairs! All opinions will be considered please.
> Bob
>
>
This has been thoroughly examined over the years. I suppose the concern
comes from Gates saying the engine is interference
http://www.gates.com/part_locator/index.cfm?location_id=3598 but probably
the top level expert to appear here (Paul Grimshaw, author of The Gothenburg
Bible) listed the clearances with all available cams; even with the hottest
cam available it is definitely non-interference. In addition, although
crashed engines are legion in alt.autos.honda (where the engines are
definitely interference) I have never seen a post that related a crashed B23
engine.
Mike >> Stay informed about: 240 timing belt busted |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Dec 21, 2006
Posts: 50
|
(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:55 pm
Post subject: Re: 240 timing belt busted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
I was afraid someone would suggest the timing belt "roadside repair" would
involve a handy pair of pantyhose ("tights" in the
UK).............................
Andy I.
"James Sweet" wrote in message
:
:
: The last 240 timing belt replacement I did was out in my driveway using
: basic hand tools. It could be done on the side of the road if I happened
: to have a socket set in the car. >> Stay informed about: 240 timing belt busted |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Dec 09, 2005
Posts: 32
|
(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:55 am
Post subject: Re: 240 timing belt busted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
Michael Pardee wrote:
>I suppose the concern
> comes from Gates saying the engine is interference
>I have never seen a post that related a crashed B23
> engine.
>
ISTR B200's (8 valve flat head, combustionchamber in piston design) are
interference
--
---
Marten >> Stay informed about: 240 timing belt busted |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Oct 08, 2006
Posts: 73
|
(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:15 am
Post subject: Re: 240 timing belt busted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Jan 30, 2007
Posts: 1
|
(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:55 am
Post subject: Re: 240 timing belt busted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
bildabob wrote:
> My 88 240 gently coasted to a halt recently and I discovered that the
> timing belt had busted. No nasty crunchy noises were heard from the
> dying engine. But I have been told that the engine is now beyond
> economical repair. And yet I discover on other Volvo sites that this
> may not be the case and some owners have even effected roadside
> repairs! All opinions will be considered please.
> Bob
>
its a simple job as your engine hasn't the interference design .cost me
$100au dollars took very little time . the twin over head cam engine is
the problem one the 240 is easy . >> Stay informed about: 240 timing belt busted |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
Joined: Jan 28, 2007
Posts: 2
|
(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:37 pm
Post subject: Re: 240 timing belt busted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
|
|
|
Many thanks to all who took the trouble to answer my query. Perhaps i should add that the 240 in question is for the UK market and ..it sez on the engine plate.. a B200E model. Engine number 1289224.  >> Stay informed about: 240 timing belt busted |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Oct 20, 2005
Posts: 488
|
(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:55 am
Post subject: Re: 240 timing belt busted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
bildabob wrote:
> Many thanks to all who took the trouble to answer my query. Perhaps i
> should add that the 240 in question is for the UK market and ..it sez
> on the engine plate.. a B200E model.
>
>
In that case I have no idea, but I'd try putting a new belt on and see
how it runs. >> Stay informed about: 240 timing belt busted |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Dec 09, 2005
Posts: 32
|
(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:55 am
Post subject: Re: 240 timing belt busted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
James Sweet wrote:
> bildabob wrote:
>> Many thanks to all who took the trouble to answer my query. Perhaps i
>> should add that the 240 in question is for the UK market and ..it sez
>> on the engine plate.. a B200E model.
>>
>>
>
> In that case I have no idea, but I'd try putting a new belt on and see
> how it runs.
Pretty pointless, given that this is an interference engine- without a
headswap
--
---
Marten >> Stay informed about: 240 timing belt busted |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Oct 30, 2004
Posts: 1802
|
(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:53 pm
Post subject: Re: Re: 240 timing belt busted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
"bildabob" wrote in message
> Many thanks to all who took the trouble to answer my query. Perhaps i
> should add that the 240 in question is for the UK market and ..it sez
> on the engine plate.. a B200E model.
>
Ahh... a check of the valve clearances will give good clues as to the extent
of the damage. Any that are suspiciously wide indicate a bent valve.
Mike >> Stay informed about: 240 timing belt busted |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Mar 15, 2005
Posts: 43
|
(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:21 am
Post subject: Re: 240 timing belt busted [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
On Jan 28, 1:25 pm, bildabob wrote:
> My 88 240 gently coasted to a halt recently and I discovered that the
> timing belt had busted. No nasty crunchy noises were heard from the
> dying engine. But I have been told that the engine is now beyond
> economical repair. And yet I discover on other Volvo sites that this
> may not be the case and some owners have even effected roadside
> repairs! All opinions will be considered please.
> Bob
>
> --
> Posted at author's request, usinghttp://www.AutoBoardz.cominterface
> Articles individually verified to usenet standards. Visit URL to contact author/report abuse
> Thread archive:http://www.AutoBoardz.com/240-timing-belt-busted-ftopict204728.html
I don't think you can do anything to an 88 vintage volvo non-turbo 4
that would make it beyond economical repair, including lubricating it
with carborundum suspended in nitric acid. >> Stay informed about: 240 timing belt busted |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
FAQ
Search
Profile
Private Messages
Log in
