2005 Toyota Echo Brake Rotors?

Tegger wrote:

> "larry moe 'n curly" wrote in
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> >
> >
> > Tegger wrote:
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> >> > wrote:
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> >> >> Hey I'm Wondering if anyone can tell me roughly how many /km I can
> >> >> expect out of my OEM rotors?
> >
> >> >> Im at about 130K and just wondering if thats about right, or
> >> >> whither my mechanic is ripping me off by not changing the pads
> >> >> sooner?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 130K what? feet? miles? kilometers?
> >>
> >> Since he gives his request in kilometers, It should be fairly obvious
> >> to the average higher primate that he's expecting an answer in
> >> kilometers as well.
> >
> >
> > I checked at the local zoo, and it wasn't obvious to most of them, and
> > that was just the people visiting.
>
> The higher primates you polled, were their knuckles dragging on the ground?

Yes, many were business majors. How did you know?

OTOH the chimps said, in sign language, that it definitely had to be
kilometers.
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wrote:
> Hey I'm Wondering if anyone can tell me roughly how many /km I can
> expect out of my OEM rotors?
>
> Im at about 130K and just wondering if thats about right, or whither
> my mechanic is ripping me off by not changing the pads sooner?


130K what? feet? miles? kilometers?

It's not uncommon for rotors to have to be replace after about 50,000
mi. He's not ripping you off by doing less service.

How long they last depends on how you drive.

> and does anyone know where I can get a service manual, it appears
> Chilton and Haynes, doesn't have any echos at all...

Did you try Toyota?

> Thanks
> TroN
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Jeff wrote in

> wrote:
>> Hey I'm Wondering if anyone can tell me roughly how many /km I can
>> expect out of my OEM rotors?
>>
>> Im at about 130K and just wondering if thats about right, or whither
>> my mechanic is ripping me off by not changing the pads sooner?
>
>
> 130K what? feet? miles? kilometers?



Since he gives his request in kilometers, It should be fairly obvious to
the average higher primate that he's expecting an answer in kilometers as
well.

Plus an IP trace of his posting address reveals he's in Ontario, Canada,
probably in the Kitchener area.

130,000 kilometers is about 80,000 miles. But OP does not state YEARS,
which is the determining factor in rust-ridden Southern Ontario, not miles.



>
> It's not uncommon for rotors to have to be replace after about 50,000
> mi. He's not ripping you off by doing less service.
>
> How long they last depends on how you drive.



And your driving environment. Southern Ontario rust is a phenomenon that
must be seen to be believed. Rust is not auspicious for brake components.



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>> and does anyone know where I can get a service manual, it appears
>> Chilton and Haynes, doesn't have any echos at all...
>
> Did you try Toyota?
>


Indeed the only place. Other than eBay.



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Tegger wrote in



>
> 130,000 kilometers is about 80,000 miles. But OP does not state YEARS,
> which is the determining factor in rust-ridden Southern Ontario, not
> miles.
>


My mistake. He does indeed. His car is an '05.

This means he's been driving on the same rotors for three years. That is a
bit young for replacement, even factoring in Southern Ontario rust.

I wonder if they're warped or badly scored? OP does not say what the
ostensible reason was for replacement.

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"larry moe 'n curly" wrote in


>
>
> Tegger wrote:
>
>> > wrote:

>> >> Hey I'm Wondering if anyone can tell me roughly how many /km I can
>> >> expect out of my OEM rotors?
>
>> >> Im at about 130K and just wondering if thats about right, or
>> >> whither my mechanic is ripping me off by not changing the pads
>> >> sooner?
>> >
>> >
>> > 130K what? feet? miles? kilometers?
>>
>> Since he gives his request in kilometers, It should be fairly obvious
>> to the average higher primate that he's expecting an answer in
>> kilometers as well.
>
>
> I checked at the local zoo, and it wasn't obvious to most of them, and
> that was just the people visiting.
>



The higher primates you polled, were their knuckles dragging on the ground?


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Thanks everyone
sorry bout the lack of info for those technical people...

2005 toyota echo 4 door hatch back
130 250 Kilometers, 80,933 Miles, 427,329,262 Feet
automatic transmission
no mods

My driving habits
I would say 50/50 highway / city, I do not ride my breaks and make few
emergency stops...
i do make many trips to north western ontario.

more so my question was about the replacement or the pads prior to
needing to replace the rotors... that is are pads and rotors usually
replaced together. or can i expect to get a few pad life's out of a
set of rotors?

and toyota is a good idea, thanks...
TroN



wrote:
> Hey I'm Wondering if anyone can tell me roughly how many /km I can
> expect out of my OEM rotors?
>
> Im at about 130K and just wondering if thats about right, or whither
> my mechanic is ripping me off by not changing the pads sooner?
>
> and does anyone know where I can get a service manual, it appears
> Chilton and Haynes, doesn't have any echos at all...
>
> Thanks
> TroN
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"TroN" wrote in message

> Thanks everyone
> sorry bout the lack of info for those technical people...
>
> 2005 toyota echo 4 door hatch back
> 130 250 Kilometers, 80,933 Miles, 427,329,262 Feet
> automatic transmission
> no mods
>
> My driving habits
> I would say 50/50 highway / city, I do not ride my breaks and make few
> emergency stops...
> i do make many trips to north western ontario.
>
> more so my question was about the replacement or the pads prior to
> needing to replace the rotors... that is are pads and rotors usually
> replaced together. or can i expect to get a few pad life's out of a
> set of rotors?
>
> and toyota is a good idea, thanks...
> TroN
>

You should get at least 40,000 miles (64,000 km) from a set of brake pads,
and have to replace the rotors every other pad replacement.

As far as the shop manual, if you need instructions on replacing pads, I can
provide a few pointers.
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"Scott in Florida" wrote in message

> On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:42:33 -0600, "Ray O"
> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
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>>"TroN" wrote in message
>>
>>> Thanks everyone
>>> sorry bout the lack of info for those technical people...
>>>
>>> 2005 toyota echo 4 door hatch back
>>> 130 250 Kilometers, 80,933 Miles, 427,329,262 Feet
>>> automatic transmission
>>> no mods
>>>
>>> My driving habits
>>> I would say 50/50 highway / city, I do not ride my breaks and make few
>>> emergency stops...
>>> i do make many trips to north western ontario.
>>>
>>> more so my question was about the replacement or the pads prior to
>>> needing to replace the rotors... that is are pads and rotors usually
>>> replaced together. or can i expect to get a few pad life's out of a
>>> set of rotors?
>>>
>>> and toyota is a good idea, thanks...
>>> TroN
>>>
>>
>>You should get at least 40,000 miles (64,000 km) from a set of brake pads,
>>and have to replace the rotors every other pad replacement.
>>
>>As far as the shop manual, if you need instructions on replacing pads, I
>>can
>>provide a few pointers.
>
> So far I've replaced pads twice in 220,000 miles and never done the
> rotors....
>
> Of course I drive pretty conservatively....LOL
>
> Not slow, but conservatively on the brakes....
>
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> Scott in Florida

LOL! You must use the Japanese method of extending brake life - mash the
accelerator and lay on the horn!
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"Scott in Florida" wrote in message

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>> So far I've replaced pads twice in 220,000 miles and never done the
>>> rotors....
>>>
>>> Of course I drive pretty conservatively....LOL
>>>
>>> Not slow, but conservatively on the brakes....
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Scott in Florida
>>
>>LOL! You must use the Japanese method of extending brake life - mash the
>>accelerator and lay on the horn!
>
> LOL...not the horn in my car....
>
> Now if I put a horn out of a Caddy in my car...now that is a HORN.
>
> I just anticipate having to slow down and let off the gas. My little
> wagon has excellent engine braking.
>
> I also don't tailgate on the Interstate (or anywhere else).
>
>
>
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> Scott in Florida

I've always wanted an air horn in my cars, just can't find an OEM Toyota one
yet!
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Ray O
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"Ray O" ...
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> I've always wanted an air horn in my cars, just can't find an OEM Toyota
> one yet!
> --

Why not add an aftermarket one? I actually have one that I plan on putting
into the Prius once it gets warmer in the garage.
Tomes
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"Tomes" wrote in message

> "Ray O" ...
>>
>> I've always wanted an air horn in my cars, just can't find an OEM Toyota
>> one yet!
>> --
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> Why not add an aftermarket one? I actually have one that I plan on
> putting into the Prius once it gets warmer in the garage.
> Tomes

I've thought about it, but the horn in the Sequoia and Lexus are actually
pretty decent. The Lexus has an air suspension, so I've thought about
tapping one of the air lines to provide air. I'd need some kind of canister
for a reservoir and a one-way valve so the car doesn't become a low-rider
whenever I use the horn. Since the horn is decent, it hasn't been high on
my priority list, at least for the past 15 years or so
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