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DallasRetro




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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:46 am
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I bought a factory AM/FM/CD/Cassette radio off of EBay to replace my factory AM/FM; Both are 2005 Silverado, and the swap-out was less than 10 minutes.

My problem now is the radio is 'locked'. I talked to the original owner and he said he didn't get an 'unlock' code when he bought his truck. (I checked my paperwork and I didn't get one either, so I guess GM doesn't furnish the code on a card in the glovebox like Honda?)

I found instructions (for 2000 Pontiacs) for retrieving six digits out of the radio that you use when you call a number to get the unlock code, but it didn't work for my radio.

Can anyone help on this?
Thanks!

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William R. Walsh

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:55 pm
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Hi!

> Can anyone help on this?

Here's the unfortunate truth: These new radios (2003 and up, as far as I
know) are keyed to the VIN of the vehicle that they came from. I don't know
how this is done, but there is some way that the radio gets a copy of the
VIN from the vehicle. It would then be compared against the one stored in
the radio. If they don't match--you won't get anywhere with the new radio.
Even if you do get the radio working, you may be in for another
surprise...it may need further programming to work properly or at all with
your vehicle.

I am not so sure *all* of the "new" radios do this and I believe that there
may be a way to bypass it. (I say that because I have seen these radios
running and working in pictures that show it to be nowhere near the vehicle
it came out of. If anyone knows how this might be done, tell me and I'll
give you an e-mail address. I have the radio from my '03 S-10 and would like
to use it as a shop radio.)

There are some companies on the WWW that claim they can unlock some or all
GM radios. I don't know how trustworthy any of them would be. You can also
go to your dealer and explain what happened. Both methods will probably cost
money and dealers may be extremely reluctant to touch the radio. In the end
you may do better to install an aftermarket receiver. I did exactly that
with my 2003 S-10 (had a CD player and I wanted tapes) and have been very
happy ever since.

What are you going to do with the original AM/FM radio?

William The Guesser

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DallasRetro




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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:27 pm
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Ouch, not what I wanted to hear! Guess I'll just have to go to a dealer and bite the bullet; Hopefully they'll help me out.

If I get the AM/FM/CD/Cassette working, I'll probably stick the AM/FM on Ebay; Doubt there's much demand for it, though.

Thanks,
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shiden_kai

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:55 pm
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PlowBoy wrote

> Careful you guys, this is a Dealer Myth IMHO...

No it's not...many of the radios now do exactly
that. They are tied to the VIN, but can be reprogrammed
if necessary.

Ian
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DallasRetro




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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:48 pm
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The dealer told me that the truck is 'programmed' for the equiptment on it, and was told that if I bring it in, they will get the program from GM that will make the radio work.

Sounds plausible, but also questionable, and at this point I just want to get it to work. They said it'd take about an hour(?) to reprogram, but didn't know what if any charge there would be. I'll post the outcome Tuesday afternoon.

Oh, they did say I needed a receipt for the radio, and it needed to include the VIN of the vehicle it came out of; to keep them clear of legal problems, I suppose?
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Eugene Nine

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:10 pm
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PlowBoy wrote:

> Careful you guys, this is a Dealer Myth IMHO...
>
>I thought the security code is entered by the "owner" and is activated in
>that way.  Or you don't set a code, it is a default code but I know the 
>"owner enables the security option.   it not set necessarily, from factory 
>might be by the dealer (if high theft area?) nor does it read the cars VIN.

Your HO is wrong for the 03 and up. 02 and below your info about the owner
programming a code is correct, but 03 and up they switched to reading the
VIN from the BCM.
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shiden_kai

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:55 pm
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DallasRetro wrote:

> The dealer told me that the truck is 'programmed' for the equiptment
> on it, and was told that if I bring it in, they will get the program
> from GM that will make the radio work.
>
> Sounds plausible, but also questionable, and at this point I just want
> to get it to work.

My advice to people that believe the dealership is ripping
them off somehow is to simply not go into the dealership
and get your radio problem fixed elsewhere! And when
you discover that you can't, then I would suggest the
following mantra become an important part of your life:
"I will not assume the dealership is ripping me off until
I do more investigation and become more educated about
my new vehicle.....becoming educated about my vehicle
will not include listening to every wingnut on the internet
spout unsubstantiated nonsense about dealerships and
my vehicle in general".

Hopefully that will help.

Ian
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Bob M1

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:55 pm
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shiden_kai wrote:


> My advice to people that believe the dealership is ripping
> them off somehow is to simply not go into the dealership
> and get your radio problem fixed elsewhere! And when
> you discover that you can't, then I would suggest the
> following mantra become an important part of your life:
> "I will not assume the dealership is ripping me off until
> I do more investigation and become more educated about
> my new vehicle.....becoming educated about my vehicle
> will not include listening to every wingnut on the internet
> spout unsubstantiated nonsense about dealerships and
> my vehicle in general".
>
> Hopefully that will help.
>
> Ian
>
>
Or become even more educated and buy after market. Then the dealer
can't ever rip you off again.
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bob187

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:55 pm
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"Bob M" wrote in message

> shiden_kai wrote:
>
>
>> My advice to people that believe the dealership is ripping
>> them off somehow is to simply not go into the dealership
>> and get your radio problem fixed elsewhere! And when
>> you discover that you can't, then I would suggest the
>> following mantra become an important part of your life:
>> "I will not assume the dealership is ripping me off until
>> I do more investigation and become more educated about
>> my new vehicle.....becoming educated about my vehicle
>> will not include listening to every wingnut on the internet
>> spout unsubstantiated nonsense about dealerships and
>> my vehicle in general".
>>
>> Hopefully that will help.
>>
>> Ian
> Or become even more educated and buy after market. Then the dealer can't
> ever rip you off again.

And just what is it the after market sells that will get his radio going
again?
Bob K
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JLarsson

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:22 pm
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Bob wrote:
> "Bob M" wrote in message
>
> > Or become even more educated and buy after market. Then the dealer can't
> > ever rip you off again.
>
> And just what is it the after market sells that will get his radio going
> again?
> Bob K

A radio that doesn't require unlocking. Meaning if he'd done his
homework and discovered the problem that would occur with this radio,
and then bought an aftermarket product instead, then he wouldn't have
had to take this radio to the dealer and get (according to some)
"ripped off" to have it made to work in his vehicle.

Or maybe he meant to buy AFTER he went to the MARKET. Your choice.
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rarepartshunte

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:55 am
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Bob M wrote:
> shiden_kai wrote:
>
>
>> My advice to people that believe the dealership is ripping
>> them off somehow is to simply not go into the dealership
>> and get your radio problem fixed elsewhere! And when
>> you discover that you can't, then I would suggest the
>> following mantra become an important part of your life:
>> "I will not assume the dealership is ripping me off until
>> I do more investigation and become more educated about
>> my new vehicle.....becoming educated about my vehicle
>> will not include listening to every wingnut on the internet
>> spout unsubstantiated nonsense about dealerships and
>> my vehicle in general".
>>
>> Hopefully that will help.
>>
>> Ian
>>
> Or become even more educated and buy after market. Then the dealer
> can't ever rip you off again.

Most aftermarket head units out there can not compeate with the
quaility of 1996 and up GM Factory units. Matter of fact only 2 or 3 are
even Direct Fit units for GM large (din &half) openings. Of those, none
look right in the dash, and they don't fit properly in some GM dashes.

GM Factory head units with a AMP and Aftermarket High End speakers can
go over 140 D.B. and still sound clear as day.

I used to have a Conversion van (87 Astro). Was in my family from new
till salvage. Over 330,000 miles (maybe 80K Highway). It came from the
vehicle converter with a Aftermaket Radio, a panasonic if memory serves
me right. It lasted all of 80,000 miles. The next after market radio
lasted all of 20,000 miles. Eventially I got tired of swaping radio's. I
finally went to a salvage yard, got a radio and wiring plug from a 87
Safari Van. Installed it (converter cut factory radio wires), and got
years of dependible service.

Im My 87 Cavalier (which has a messed up counsel/lower dash) I have a
1989 Chevy S-10 Blazer radio. I have a small 40 watt (Peak)amp for my
rear Poineer 150 Watt (Peak) 6x9's.

Unlike some people out there. I like my audio to be clean, crisp, and
distortion free. I also don't like my vehicles to look hacked up with
cheesy radio adapters, speaker boxes and other aftermarket junk.

BTW: paying a small fee to get your radio unlocked once isn't stealing.
If your too ignorant to write the information down and keep it in a safe
place has nothing to do with a dealer.
Charles
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shiden_kai

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:55 pm
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Bob M wrote:

>>
> Or become even more educated and buy after market. Then the dealer
> can't ever rip you off again.

Oh, we get people doing that too. We usually have to
tell them to rip that radio out before we can even begin
to work on all the problems that crop up after that style
of radio is installed. Same thing with "aftermarket" security
systems.

Ian
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DallasRetro




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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:04 pm
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Well, I finally got the radio working, and it did take a trip to the dealer.

I was told that each vehicle had a program fed into the onboard computer that told it how to interact with all the systems and accessories. My program was telling it that it had the AM/FM with my VIN, and it didn't know what to do with the AM/FM/CD/Tape unit. They charged me $45.00

Ya'll are right, I could have gotten an aftermarket unit, (with MP3), for a good price, but I wanted to keep the truck OEM, plus I've never had a factory radio go out; I can't say that about aftermarket unit.

Thanks for all of your input.
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