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Cowboy Joe

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:04 pm
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Hello, I am currently mulling over purchasing one of the 2
aforementioned vehicles - both 2005's: the Accord EX 4 cylinder or the
Acura TSX.

I realize the price is about $ 4-5000 difference in these 2 cars. The
Acura dealer told me they could sell me a new TSX (no navigation sys)
for $25,400 and that included a moonroof visor. I am pretty sure that is
a very good price for those TSX's.

My question to all who could help would be what are the major
differences between the 2 vehicles? Does the TSX have a smoother ride
than the Accord? I know it has more luxury type features. I also have
read some reviews of people who own the TSX & they all seem to
absolutely love the car. From the reviews I've read they seem to label
it the "almost perfect" car.

But the Accord 4 cyl is pretty good too. Unlike the 6 cyl Accords, it
has had little reliability issues, i.e. Transmission, etc.

How about comparing stuff like the sound systems between the 2 vehicles?
Is there a big difference?

Any help/ info would be appreciated. The more opinions/ voices heard the
better! Thanks!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:13 pm
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:04:29 -0400, CowboysStarShines.RemoveThis@webtv.net
(Cowboy Joe) wrote:
>Hello, I am currently mulling over purchasing one of the 2
>aforementioned vehicles - both 2005's: the Accord EX 4 cylinder or the
>Acura TSX.

I went with the Accord, mostly because it was $120/month cheaper to
lease. The Accord is a wonderful car, but it is a tad large for me
and I keep looking back at the TSX, with a few more horses, and
sighing.

OTOH I would imagine the TSX has a somewhat firmer, harsher ride, and
the Accord is already rather harsher on the freeway than one would
hope. Maybe I should have test-driven a Camry.

J.

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Neal

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:17 pm
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If you're leaning towards the Accord, go for the Hybrid.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:07 pm
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"Cowboy Joe" wrote in message

>
> Hello, I am currently mulling over purchasing one of the 2
> aforementioned vehicles - both 2005's: the Accord EX 4 cylinder or the
> Acura TSX.
>
> I realize the price is about $ 4-5000 difference in these 2 cars. The
> Acura dealer told me they could sell me a new TSX (no navigation sys)
> for $25,400 and that included a moonroof visor. I am pretty sure that is
> a very good price for those TSX's.
>
> My question to all who could help would be what are the major
> differences between the 2 vehicles? Does the TSX have a smoother ride
> than the Accord? I know it has more luxury type features. I also have
> read some reviews of people who own the TSX & they all seem to
> absolutely love the car. From the reviews I've read they seem to label
> it the "almost perfect" car.
>
> But the Accord 4 cyl is pretty good too. Unlike the 6 cyl Accords, it
> has had little reliability issues, i.e. Transmission, etc.
>
> How about comparing stuff like the sound systems between the 2 vehicles?
> Is there a big difference?
>
> Any help/ info would be appreciated. The more opinions/ voices heard the
> better! Thanks!
>

Advantages of each:

Honda Accord
-larger
-uses regular gas
-less expensive

Acura TSX
-a little more powerful engine
-stability control
-less frequent oil changes


Aside from the above, you have to test drive them both. They are different
cars and drive differently.
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somewhereoveth

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:07 pm
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out of curiosity how frequent are the oil changes on the Acura?


"Steve" wrote in message

>
> "Cowboy Joe" wrote in message
>
>>
>> Hello, I am currently mulling over purchasing one of the 2
>> aforementioned vehicles - both 2005's: the Accord EX 4 cylinder or the
>> Acura TSX.
>>
>> I realize the price is about $ 4-5000 difference in these 2 cars. The
>> Acura dealer told me they could sell me a new TSX (no navigation sys)
>> for $25,400 and that included a moonroof visor. I am pretty sure that is
>> a very good price for those TSX's.
>>
>> My question to all who could help would be what are the major
>> differences between the 2 vehicles? Does the TSX have a smoother ride
>> than the Accord? I know it has more luxury type features. I also have
>> read some reviews of people who own the TSX & they all seem to
>> absolutely love the car. From the reviews I've read they seem to label
>> it the "almost perfect" car.
>>
>> But the Accord 4 cyl is pretty good too. Unlike the 6 cyl Accords, it
>> has had little reliability issues, i.e. Transmission, etc.
>>
>> How about comparing stuff like the sound systems between the 2 vehicles?
>> Is there a big difference?
>>
>> Any help/ info would be appreciated. The more opinions/ voices heard the
>> better! Thanks!
>>
>
> Advantages of each:
>
> Honda Accord
> -larger
> -uses regular gas
> -less expensive
>
> Acura TSX
> -a little more powerful engine
> -stability control
> -less frequent oil changes
>
>
> Aside from the above, you have to test drive them both. They are different
> cars and drive differently.
>
>
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Joshua J. Belsky

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:13 am
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I suggest you play with the navigation system before you decide that you
don't want it.



In alt.autos.acura Cowboy Joe wrote:

> Hello, I am currently mulling over purchasing one of the 2
> aforementioned vehicles - both 2005's: the Accord EX 4 cylinder or the
> Acura TSX.

> I realize the price is about $ 4-5000 difference in these 2 cars. The
> Acura dealer told me they could sell me a new TSX (no navigation sys)
> for $25,400 and that included a moonroof visor. I am pretty sure that is
> a very good price for those TSX's.

> My question to all who could help would be what are the major
> differences between the 2 vehicles? Does the TSX have a smoother ride
> than the Accord? I know it has more luxury type features. I also have
> read some reviews of people who own the TSX & they all seem to
> absolutely love the car. From the reviews I've read they seem to label
> it the "almost perfect" car.

> But the Accord 4 cyl is pretty good too. Unlike the 6 cyl Accords, it
> has had little reliability issues, i.e. Transmission, etc.

> How about comparing stuff like the sound systems between the 2 vehicles?
> Is there a big difference?

> Any help/ info would be appreciated. The more opinions/ voices heard the
> better! Thanks!


--
-Joshua Belsky
Email: At yahoo dot com, I am jjbelsky
http://belsky.net
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Neal Hudson

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:51 am
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Change the oil every 3 months or 3000 mi on any car. Oil is cheap.
Neal

"halo2 guy" wrote in message

> out of curiosity how frequent are the oil changes on the Acura?
>
>
> "Steve" wrote in message
>
> >
> > "Cowboy Joe" wrote in message
> >
> >>
> >> Hello, I am currently mulling over purchasing one of the 2
> >> aforementioned vehicles - both 2005's: the Accord EX 4 cylinder or the
> >> Acura TSX.
> >>
> >> I realize the price is about $ 4-5000 difference in these 2 cars. The
> >> Acura dealer told me they could sell me a new TSX (no navigation sys)
> >> for $25,400 and that included a moonroof visor. I am pretty sure that
is
> >> a very good price for those TSX's.
> >>
> >> My question to all who could help would be what are the major
> >> differences between the 2 vehicles? Does the TSX have a smoother ride
> >> than the Accord? I know it has more luxury type features. I also have
> >> read some reviews of people who own the TSX & they all seem to
> >> absolutely love the car. From the reviews I've read they seem to label
> >> it the "almost perfect" car.
> >>
> >> But the Accord 4 cyl is pretty good too. Unlike the 6 cyl Accords, it
> >> has had little reliability issues, i.e. Transmission, etc.
> >>
> >> How about comparing stuff like the sound systems between the 2
vehicles?
> >> Is there a big difference?
> >>
> >> Any help/ info would be appreciated. The more opinions/ voices heard
the
> >> better! Thanks!
> >>
> >
> > Advantages of each:
> >
> > Honda Accord
> > -larger
> > -uses regular gas
> > -less expensive
> >
> > Acura TSX
> > -a little more powerful engine
> > -stability control
> > -less frequent oil changes
> >
> >
> > Aside from the above, you have to test drive them both. They are
different
> > cars and drive differently.
> >
> >
>
>
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somewhereoveth

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:16 am
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It may be but Honda is going 10k between changes....actually they are going
20k, alternating between the filter and oil change every 10 k....very weird.



"Neal Hudson" wrote in message

> Change the oil every 3 months or 3000 mi on any car. Oil is cheap.
> Neal
>
> "halo2 guy" wrote in message
>
>> out of curiosity how frequent are the oil changes on the Acura?
>>
>>
>> "Steve" wrote in message
>>
>> >
>> > "Cowboy Joe" wrote in message
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Hello, I am currently mulling over purchasing one of the 2
>> >> aforementioned vehicles - both 2005's: the Accord EX 4 cylinder or the
>> >> Acura TSX.
>> >>
>> >> I realize the price is about $ 4-5000 difference in these 2 cars. The
>> >> Acura dealer told me they could sell me a new TSX (no navigation sys)
>> >> for $25,400 and that included a moonroof visor. I am pretty sure that
> is
>> >> a very good price for those TSX's.
>> >>
>> >> My question to all who could help would be what are the major
>> >> differences between the 2 vehicles? Does the TSX have a smoother ride
>> >> than the Accord? I know it has more luxury type features. I also have
>> >> read some reviews of people who own the TSX & they all seem to
>> >> absolutely love the car. From the reviews I've read they seem to label
>> >> it the "almost perfect" car.
>> >>
>> >> But the Accord 4 cyl is pretty good too. Unlike the 6 cyl Accords, it
>> >> has had little reliability issues, i.e. Transmission, etc.
>> >>
>> >> How about comparing stuff like the sound systems between the 2
> vehicles?
>> >> Is there a big difference?
>> >>
>> >> Any help/ info would be appreciated. The more opinions/ voices heard
> the
>> >> better! Thanks!
>> >>
>> >
>> > Advantages of each:
>> >
>> > Honda Accord
>> > -larger
>> > -uses regular gas
>> > -less expensive
>> >
>> > Acura TSX
>> > -a little more powerful engine
>> > -stability control
>> > -less frequent oil changes
>> >
>> >
>> > Aside from the above, you have to test drive them both. They are
> different
>> > cars and drive differently.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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Steve

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:34 pm
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"halo2 guy" wrote in message

> out of curiosity how frequent are the oil changes on the Acura?
>

When car shopping last month, I was told by the Acura saleman, that you had
to change the oil for the TSX, every 10,000 miles. (!)

I own a 94 Honda Accord I-4 (4 cyl) , and if I recall, Honda said I only
have to change the oil (on my VTEC engine) every 6,000 miles (but I usually
do it more frequently).

(I'm simplifying of course, leaving out the # of months)

I agree it seems every 3,000 miles is the general rule for cars in general.
>
> "Steve" wrote in message
>
>>
>> "Cowboy Joe" wrote in message
>>
>>>
>>> Hello, I am currently mulling over purchasing one of the 2
>>> aforementioned vehicles - both 2005's: the Accord EX 4 cylinder or the
>>> Acura TSX.
>>>
>>> I realize the price is about $ 4-5000 difference in these 2 cars. The
>>> Acura dealer told me they could sell me a new TSX (no navigation sys)
>>> for $25,400 and that included a moonroof visor. I am pretty sure that is
>>> a very good price for those TSX's.
>>>
>>> My question to all who could help would be what are the major
>>> differences between the 2 vehicles? Does the TSX have a smoother ride
>>> than the Accord? I know it has more luxury type features. I also have
>>> read some reviews of people who own the TSX & they all seem to
>>> absolutely love the car. From the reviews I've read they seem to label
>>> it the "almost perfect" car.
>>>
>>> But the Accord 4 cyl is pretty good too. Unlike the 6 cyl Accords, it
>>> has had little reliability issues, i.e. Transmission, etc.
>>>
>>> How about comparing stuff like the sound systems between the 2 vehicles?
>>> Is there a big difference?
>>>
>>> Any help/ info would be appreciated. The more opinions/ voices heard the
>>> better! Thanks!
>>>
>>
>> Advantages of each:
>>
>> Honda Accord
>> -larger
>> -uses regular gas
>> -less expensive
>>
>> Acura TSX
>> -a little more powerful engine
>> -stability control
>> -less frequent oil changes
>>
>>
>> Aside from the above, you have to test drive them both. They are
>> different cars and drive differently.
>>
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:34 pm
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"Steve" wrote in message

> When car shopping last month, I was told by the Acura saleman, that you
> had to change the oil for the TSX, every 10,000 miles. (!)
>
> I own a 94 Honda Accord I-4 (4 cyl) , and if I recall, Honda said I only
> have to change the oil (on my VTEC engine) every 6,000 miles (but I
> usually do it more frequently).
>
> (I'm simplifying of course, leaving out the # of months)
>
> I agree it seems every 3,000 miles is the general rule for cars in
> general.

(Trying to avoid the undying "oil change frequency" thread) Go for it - to
each their own. This has become a very controversial issue, with
recommendations from reputable sources running the gamut of 3K to 15K miles.
I follow the owner's manual for each vehicle, myself, figuring they know
better than I do.

Mike
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Sabby

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:18 pm
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As the proud owner of an 04 TSX (and former owner of an Accord), I would
ask you a question before answering..

What is more important to you- precise handling (read as sports sedan), or a
comfortable ride?

If you responded with precise Handling- Go for the TSX. It is a firmer ride
than you will get with the Accord. Handling is much better also. Stronger
engine, better equipment level. The TSX is also slightly smaller- not really
noticable though. Built in Japan too- unlike the American built Accord.
With just under 10,000 miles on my TSX, I still love getting into it and
driving it like I stole it (of course, I only do this on sanctioned tracks
<wink>)!!! The largest drawback to the TSX is the requirement for Super
Unleaded gasoline.

I am not putting the Accord down, it is an extremely well built vehicle. I
was cross shopping a V6 when I bought the TSX.

Keep this in mind as well, The TSX is actually the known as the Accord in
Europe and Asia (the US Accord is known as the Legend) This is because the
US and Canada are the only countries where you can purchase an Acura branded
vehicle.

I fyou want to find out more about the TSX, please visit the following
website.. you will find a lot of info by TSX owners about their cars..

http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/index.php


Whatever vehicle you end up with.. Enjoy it!!




"Cowboy Joe" wrote in message

>
> Hello, I am currently mulling over purchasing one of the 2
> aforementioned vehicles - both 2005's: the Accord EX 4 cylinder or the
> Acura TSX.
>
> I realize the price is about $ 4-5000 difference in these 2 cars. The
> Acura dealer told me they could sell me a new TSX (no navigation sys)
> for $25,400 and that included a moonroof visor. I am pretty sure that is
> a very good price for those TSX's.
>
> My question to all who could help would be what are the major
> differences between the 2 vehicles? Does the TSX have a smoother ride
> than the Accord? I know it has more luxury type features. I also have
> read some reviews of people who own the TSX & they all seem to
> absolutely love the car. From the reviews I've read they seem to label
> it the "almost perfect" car.
>
> But the Accord 4 cyl is pretty good too. Unlike the 6 cyl Accords, it
> has had little reliability issues, i.e. Transmission, etc.
>
> How about comparing stuff like the sound systems between the 2 vehicles?
> Is there a big difference?
>
> Any help/ info would be appreciated. The more opinions/ voices heard the
> better! Thanks!
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:18 am
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:43 pm
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote in message

> In article ,
> "Michael Pardee" wrote:
>
>> (Trying to avoid the undying "oil change frequency" thread) Go for it -
>> to
>> each their own. This has become a very controversial issue, with
>> recommendations from reputable sources running the gamut of 3K to 15K
>> miles.
>> I follow the owner's manual for each vehicle, myself, figuring they know
>> better than I do.
>
> Ah, but changing the oil is simply cheap insurance.
>
> If the manual says 6000 miles, and you do it at 3000 miles, you're not
> harming the car.
>
Actually, Hondas are the only make I know of where oil changes take their
toll on the engine... or more specifically, the oil drain pan threads. The
ones I've worked on seem to gradually consume the threads with each change,
eventually requiring a new pan or oversized drain bolt.

Mike
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:28 pm
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"Cowboy Joe" wrote in message

>
> Hello, I am currently mulling over purchasing one of the 2
> aforementioned vehicles - both 2005's: the Accord EX 4 cylinder or the
> Acura TSX.
>
> I realize the price is about $ 4-5000 difference in these 2 cars. The
> Acura dealer told me they could sell me a new TSX (no navigation sys)
> for $25,400 and that included a moonroof visor. I am pretty sure that is
> a very good price for those TSX's.

5k difference? I priced an 05 Accord EX with Leather at our local dealer --
26k firm. Made my 01 Prelude look good for a long time.


>
> My question to all who could help would be what are the major
> differences between the 2 vehicles? Does the TSX have a smoother ride
> than the Accord? I know it has more luxury type features. I also have
> read some reviews of people who own the TSX & they all seem to
> absolutely love the car. From the reviews I've read they seem to label
> it the "almost perfect" car.
>
> But the Accord 4 cyl is pretty good too. Unlike the 6 cyl Accords, it
> has had little reliability issues, i.e. Transmission, etc.
>
> How about comparing stuff like the sound systems between the 2 vehicles?
> Is there a big difference?
>
> Any help/ info would be appreciated. The more opinions/ voices heard the
> better! Thanks!
>
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:24 pm
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:18:14 GMT, "Sabby" wrote:
>If you responded with precise Handling- Go for the TSX. It is a firmer ride
>than you will get with the Accord. Handling is much better also.

A little better, maybe, due to lower profile tires and suspension
tuning, but the Accord is pretty good too y'know, and they are still
pretty much clones of each other.

> Built in Japan too- unlike the American built Accord.

My four-banger Accord has a J* VIN, which means made in Japan.

J.
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