2004 Toyota Tacoma

"Xanadu the troll " wrote in message

 > Hi,
 >
 > I've noticed that during a rainstorm that rainwater will collect in the
 > front of bed of my Tacoma. Is the bed designed to tilt towards the center
 > of the car instead of the gate? Or would this be considered a factory
 > defect?
 >
 >
 > Best,
 > Xanadu
 >

I'll rise to the troll bait!

When the truck bed is unladen, the back end of the truck will sit higher
than the front end of the truck so water may pool in the front of the bed,
especially if you have a bed liner. The bed is not designed to tilt; it is
stationary in relation to the frame. Sorry, this is not a factory defect.
--
Ray O
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Xanadu wrote:

 > Hi,
 >
 > I've noticed that during a rainstorm that rainwater will collect in the
 > front of bed of my Tacoma. Is the bed designed to tilt towards the
 > center of the car instead of the gate? Or would this be considered a
 > factory defect?
 >
 >
 > Best,
 > Xanadu
 >


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On 2005-01-14 14:08:06 -0800, "Ray O" said:

 > I'll rise to the troll bait!
 >
 > When the truck bed is unladen, the back end of the truck will sit
 > higher than the front end of the truck so water may pool in the front
 > of the bed, especially if you have a bed liner. The bed is not
 > designed to tilt; it is stationary in relation to the frame. Sorry,
 > this is not a factory defect.

Hi,

Thanks for your answer. However, I would appreciate not being named a
troll. If it was a flaw I just wanted it taken care of. I wasn't trying
to imply that the Tacoma line is flawed or whatnot. I'm not
particularly interested in particular semantics of truck design and was
wondering if there were any open notices for a defect of this matter.

I realize that this group is open to any persons and I'm sure you
regulars have gotten quite sick of real trolls, but I hope you would
approach newcomers with a bit less skepticism.


Best,
Xanadu<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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MDT Tech® wrote:

 >Xanadu wrote:
 >
  >> Hi,
  >>
  >> I've noticed that during a rainstorm that rainwater will collect in the
  >> front of bed of my Tacoma. Is the bed designed to tilt towards the
  >> center of the car instead of the gate? Or would this be considered a
  >> factory defect?
  >>
  >>
  >> Best,
  >> Xanadu
  >>
 >
 >
 >Its a defective earth surface.

Caused by always driving 'across' valleys instead of up/down
them... Harrumph...
--

-Gord.
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:04:10 GMT, Xanadu
wrote:


 >
  >> I'll rise to the troll bait!
  >>
  >> When the truck bed is unladen, the back end of the truck will sit
  >> higher than the front end of the truck so water may pool in the front
  >> of the bed, especially if you have a bed liner. The bed is not
  >> designed to tilt; it is stationary in relation to the frame. Sorry,
  >> this is not a factory defect.
 >
 >Hi,
 >
 >Thanks for your answer. However, I would appreciate not being named a
 >troll. If it was a flaw I just wanted it taken care of. I wasn't trying
 >to imply that the Tacoma line is flawed or whatnot. I'm not
 >particularly interested in particular semantics of truck design and was
 >wondering if there were any open notices for a defect of this matter.
 >
 >I realize that this group is open to any persons and I'm sure you
 >regulars have gotten quite sick of real trolls, but I hope you would
 >approach newcomers with a bit less skepticism.
 >
 >
 >Best,
 >Xanadu

Please don't take it personally. I understand that it's easy to read
into what people write as being mean. That's not the intention at
all.

People who have been reading and writing in this newsgroup a while
have reached that stage of familiarity that teasing and joking with
each other have become commonplace. That's untenable.

Hopefully, all tenderfoots, like yourself, will become callous to such
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On 2005-01-15 23:02:55 -0800, Viperkiller said:

 > Please don't take it personally. I understand that it's easy to read
 > into what people write as being mean. That's not the intention at
 > all.
 >
 > People who have been reading and writing in this newsgroup a while
 > have reached that stage of familiarity that teasing and joking with
 > each other have become commonplace. That's untenable.
 >
 > Hopefully, all tenderfoots, like yourself, will become callous to such
 > derisive remarks quickly.

Hi,

Good to hear. Perhaps, I was a little too quick to make such a
statement and I'm glad there are people who are willing to help me
understand the dynamics of the group.


Best,
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It's perfectly normal. The front is lower than the back, so water pools in
the front of the bed. Park on a hill ...



"Xanadu" wrote in message

 > Hi,
 >
 > I've noticed that during a rainstorm that rainwater will collect in the
 > front of bed of my Tacoma. Is the bed designed to tilt towards the
 > center of the car instead of the gate? Or would this be considered a
 > factory defect?
 >
 >
 > Best,
 > Xanadu
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"Xanadu" wrote in message


 > said:
 >
  >> I'll rise to the troll bait!
  >>
  >> When the truck bed is unladen, the back end of the truck will sit higher
  >> than the front end of the truck so water may pool in the front of the
  >> bed, especially if you have a bed liner. The bed is not designed to
  >> tilt; it is stationary in relation to the frame. Sorry, this is not a
  >> factory defect.
 >
 > Hi,
 >
 > Thanks for your answer. However, I would appreciate not being named a
 > troll. If it was a flaw I just wanted it taken care of. I wasn't trying to
 > imply that the Tacoma line is flawed or whatnot. I'm not particularly
 > interested in particular semantics of truck design and was wondering if
 > there were any open notices for a defect of this matter.
 >
 > I realize that this group is open to any persons and I'm sure you regulars
 > have gotten quite sick of real trolls, but I hope you would approach
 > newcomers with a bit less skepticism.
 >
 >
 > Best,
 > Xanadu
 >
Sorry, no insult was intended. Sometimes, it is difficult to tell when
someone is serious with an honest question or is just trolling. To someone
who is familiar with cars, it is easy to forget that there are vastly
different levels of understanding of cars, trucks, etc.

As a former factory rep, I've dealt with or heard of some unusual
complaints. I've heard of a 400+ lb person complain that the left front
corner of their Corolla sagged (couldn't do much for that person. That
their car had a ghost (it was a reflection in the day-night mirror). That
the fabric in their upholstery was defective because every time the guy got
out of the car and reached to close the door, he got a static shock (the
polyester pants were the culprit). A guy who purchased a new Camry came
back the next day complaining that it sounded like a 747 coming in for a
landing. The tailpipe whistle someone stuck in his exhaust pipe while he
was at the golf club was the cause. These people were all serious, but
there were good fodder for war story telling.

When you put a payload in the bed of a truck, the weight will cause the back
to sag. There are various alternatives to control the sag. A simple
approach is to design it so it sits a little higher in the back when
unloaded so it will be more level when loaded. Another is to install stiff
suspension springs that don't sag so much but then ride quality becomes
harsher. Yet another is to install some kind of suspension leveling device,
like air bags but they become another thing to maintain and they cost more
money than the first 2 alternatives.

Welcome to the group!
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Xanadu wrote:
 >
 > Hi,
 >
 > I've noticed that during a rainstorm that rainwater will collect in the
 > front of bed of my Tacoma. Is the bed designed to tilt towards the
 > center of the car instead of the gate? Or would this be considered a
 > factory defect?
 >
 > Best,
 > Xanadu

No drain holes?

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