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Ed Bacon, Jr.

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:53 pm
Post subject: 2002 2.4L Sebring, Question re: exhaust manifold
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I am trying to diagnose an exhaust leak on my sister-in-laws car.
Hopefully you guys can educate me on what this should look like.

Is there supposed to be a clamp where the exhaust pipe connects to the
exhast manifold? I see what looks like steel wool packing in the joint,
however I am not certain if the joint is a slip fit or there should be a
clamp. If there is supposed to be a clamp then hers is missing.

Thanks,
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hamto:kc8klb
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Ted Mittelstaedt

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:09 am
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"Ed Bacon, Jr." <ebacon RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I am trying to diagnose an exhaust leak on my sister-in-laws car.
> Hopefully you guys can educate me on what this should look like.
>
> Is there supposed to be a clamp where the exhaust pipe connects to the
> exhast manifold? I see what looks like steel wool packing in the joint,
> however I am not certain if the joint is a slip fit or there should be a
> clamp. If there is supposed to be a clamp then hers is missing.
>

The only way I've ever been able to diagnose exhaust leaks is to
put the vehicle up on jackstands (and use decent ones, not the little
piss-ant ones) insert earplugs (in my ears) start the car, then use
a creeper to get under the vehicle and carefully examine the entire
exhaust system. The leak will be very noticable, both loud and you
can feel the exhaust puffing out when you put your hand up to it.

Make absolutely sure before you do this that you CANNOT push
the car off the stands. For jackstands I use the big Harbor Freight ones
and put them under the axle. For safety, you can also put a stack of
(mounted) spare tires under the car.

Common places for leaks are muffler connections, and the pipe to
manifold connection.

Ted

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Robert Reynolds

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 8:57 am
Post subject: Re: 2002 2.4L Sebring, Question re: exhaust manifold [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> "Ed Bacon, Jr." <ebacon.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns993CC0E3D6B23ebaconcomcastnet@216.196.97.136...
>> I am trying to diagnose an exhaust leak on my sister-in-laws car.
>> Hopefully you guys can educate me on what this should look like.
>>
>> Is there supposed to be a clamp where the exhaust pipe connects to the
>> exhast manifold? I see what looks like steel wool packing in the joint,
>> however I am not certain if the joint is a slip fit or there should be a
>> clamp. If there is supposed to be a clamp then hers is missing.
>>
>
> The only way I've ever been able to diagnose exhaust leaks is to
> put the vehicle up on jackstands (and use decent ones, not the little
> piss-ant ones) insert earplugs (in my ears) start the car, then use
> a creeper to get under the vehicle and carefully examine the entire
> exhaust system. The leak will be very noticable, both loud and you
> can feel the exhaust puffing out when you put your hand up to it.
>
> Make absolutely sure before you do this that you CANNOT push
> the car off the stands. For jackstands I use the big Harbor Freight ones
> and put them under the axle. For safety, you can also put a stack of
> (mounted) spare tires under the car.
>
> Common places for leaks are muffler connections, and the pipe to
> manifold connection.
>
> Ted
>
>


And if you have trouble finding a small leak, you can have a helper
stick something over the tail pip momentarily to make the exhaust shoot
out of the leak.

What makes you think there is a leak? Do you hear noise, or do you
smell exhaust in the car? If it's noise, when do you hear it?
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master tech

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:58 pm
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On May 26, 6:53 pm, "Ed Bacon, Jr." <eba... DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> I am trying to diagnose an exhaust leak on my sister-in-laws car.
> Hopefully you guys can educate me on what this should look like.
>
> Is there supposed to be a clamp where the exhaust pipe connects to the
> exhast manifold? I see what looks like steel wool packing in the joint,
> however I am not certain if the joint is a slip fit or there should be a
> clamp. If there is supposed to be a clamp then hers is missing.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> mailto:eba...@comcast.net
> hamto:kc8klb
> howto:man <arg>

No there is no clamps missing.Its four nuts holding the front pipe to
the manifold. The most likely cause of your leak is front pipe to the
exhaust manifold (cracked) You can also check for broken m
manifold bolts or loose. You can diagnos this by the black soot around
the manifold and cylinder head.

Claude
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:00 pm
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On May 29, 7:58 pm, master tech <camaroz....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 26, 6:53 pm, "Ed Bacon, Jr." <eba....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > I am trying to diagnose an exhaust leak on my sister-in-laws car.
> > Hopefully you guys can educate me on what this should look like.
>
> > Is there supposed to be a clamp where the exhaust pipe connects to the
> > exhast manifold? I see what looks like steel wool packing in the joint,
> > however I am not certain if the joint is a slip fit or there should be a
> > clamp. If there is supposed to be a clamp then hers is missing.
>
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > mailto:eba...@comcast.net
> > hamto:kc8klb
> > howto:man <arg>
>
> No there is no clamps missing.Its four nuts holding the front pipe to
> the manifold. The most likely cause of your leak is the
> exhaust manifold (cracked) You can also check for broken manifold bolts or loose bolts. You can diagnos this by the black soot around the manifold and cylinder head.
>
> Claude
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