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Burzum

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:55 pm
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:31 pm
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:56:55 +0000 (UTC), Tegger wrote:


>AZ Nomad wrote in
>


>>
>> Even if the fuel pump runs, the ECM can simply fail to signal the
>> injectors. Ditto for the ignition. You can't have a running engine
>> without the ECM participating.
>>


>You're right of course. That's why I wondered earlier how honest the shop
>manual was. It would be trivially easy for Honda to tell the ECM to disable
>spark and injectors as well as the fuel pump.

>But none of this explains how the OP's car was stolen in the first place,
>which is what this whole thread was about.

if it had an immobilizer, it was either tricked, or more likely, the car
was simply towed away.

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Jim Yanik1

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:39 pm
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Tegger wrote in


> AZ Nomad wrote in
>
>
>
>>
>> Even if the fuel pump runs, the ECM can simply fail to signal the
>> injectors. Ditto for the ignition. You can't have a running engine
>> without the ECM participating.
>>
>
>
> You're right of course. That's why I wondered earlier how honest the
> shop manual was. It would be trivially easy for Honda to tell the ECM
> to disable spark and injectors as well as the fuel pump.
>
> But none of this explains how the OP's car was stolen in the first
> place, which is what this whole thread was about.
>

it would seem that the ECM does NOT disable the injectors,just the
relay,and they just jumpered the relay,then pushstarted the car.

Or they brought along their own ECM,swapped it in,and then jimmied the
ignition switch,with their matching key close enough for the key reader to
query it. That's a bit of a stretch,but not impossible.

If you install a fuel pump cutoff switch,you should remove the rear seat to
access the fuel pump wires,not under the dash where the mod would be easily
found.Then run the wire under the carpet to somewhere reachable from the
drivers seat.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:20 pm
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"Dave Garrett" wrote in message

> In article , jyanik.TakeThisOut@abuse.gov
> says...
>
>> F-ing G-D thieves,we should be allowed to shoot them on sight.
>
> You should move to Texas. That's exactly what someone did last week.
> Still no word on whether the DA's going to press charges, but public
> opinion here has so far been mostly in favor of the shooter.
>
> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5315727.html
>
> Dave
>


You don't even have to live in Texas to do that. If I caught someone trying
to steal my car, I'd tie them to a fence and chop off their balls and make
them eat them, then I'd shoot them! If it was a woman I'd tie them to a
fence, and then have my way with her and then I'd shoot her. I'm a nice
person, I'm just very protective of my car.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:24 pm
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>
> If that's the case,best to install a hidden fuel pump disable switch.
> I wish I had done that for my 94 GS-R,I had the parts all ready for
> installation,just didn't get to it in time. It cost me big time.
>
>


What about just putting The Club on the steering wheel? How good are they?
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:56 pm
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"alfred" wrote in


>
>>
>> If that's the case,best to install a hidden fuel pump disable switch.
>> I wish I had done that for my 94 GS-R,I had the parts all ready for
>> installation,just didn't get to it in time. It cost me big time.
>>
>>
>
>
> What about just putting The Club on the steering wheel? How good are
> they?
>
>
>


Bolt cutters. Off it comes. The Club is totally useless.

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Jim Yanik1

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:00 am
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"alfred" wrote in


>
> "Dave Garrett" wrote in message
>
>> In article ,
>> jyanik.RemoveThis@abuse.gov says...
>>
>>> F-ing G-D thieves,we should be allowed to shoot them on sight.
>>
>> You should move to Texas. That's exactly what someone did last week.
>> Still no word on whether the DA's going to press charges, but public
>> opinion here has so far been mostly in favor of the shooter.
>>
>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5315727.html
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
>
> You don't even have to live in Texas to do that. If I caught someone
> trying to steal my car, I'd tie them to a fence and chop off their
> balls and make them eat them, then I'd shoot them! If it was a woman
> I'd tie them to a fence, and then have my way with her and then I'd
> shoot her. I'm a nice person, I'm just very protective of my car.
>
>
>

far too many people are willing to surrender their property(and mine,yours)
to thieves. As if the thief's life was somehow important.

They can't see the terrible cost this thievery has to our society.
It also leads to worse crimes.

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:01 am
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"alfred" wrote in


>
>>
>> If that's the case,best to install a hidden fuel pump disable switch.
>> I wish I had done that for my 94 GS-R,I had the parts all ready for
>> installation,just didn't get to it in time. It cost me big time.
>>
>>
>
>
> What about just putting The Club on the steering wheel? How good are
> they?
>
>
>

Waste of money.

they *cut off* part of your steering wheel.
Maybe one that clamps on the brake pedal arm might be worthwhile.

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:29 am
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Jim Yanik wrote in


> "alfred" wrote in
>
>
>>
>> "Dave Garrett" wrote in message
>>
>>> In article ,
>>> jyanik DeleteThis @abuse.gov says...
>>>
>>>> F-ing G-D thieves,we should be allowed to shoot them on sight.
>>>
>>> You should move to Texas. That's exactly what someone did last week.
>>> Still no word on whether the DA's going to press charges, but public
>>> opinion here has so far been mostly in favor of the shooter.
>>>
>>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5315727.html
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
>>
>> You don't even have to live in Texas to do that. If I caught someone
>> trying to steal my car, I'd tie them to a fence and chop off their
>> balls and make them eat them, then I'd shoot them! If it was a woman
>> I'd tie them to a fence, and then have my way with her and then I'd
>> shoot her. I'm a nice person, I'm just very protective of my car.
>>
>>
>>
>
> far too many people are willing to surrender their property(and
> mine,yours) to thieves. As if the thief's life was somehow important.
>
> They can't see the terrible cost this thievery has to our society.
> It also leads to worse crimes.
>



And to think tolerance of thievery only started about 40 years ago.

At one time, not so very long ago, it was considered a citizen's duty to
defend his person, family and property by whatever means he deemed
necessary. And the world was a better place for it.

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(Msg. 25) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:48 am
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:24:47 -0500, alfred wrote:



>>
>> If that's the case,best to install a hidden fuel pump disable switch.
>> I wish I had done that for my 94 GS-R,I had the parts all ready for
>> installation,just didn't get to it in time. It cost me big time.
>>
>>


>What about just putting The Club on the steering wheel? How good are they?

They're absolutely worthless. They can be removed in under 15 seconds by
cutting the steering wheel.
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