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rraszews

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:19 pm
Post subject: 1998 Legacy Outback Dashboard Illumination
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Been having a problem for a while now, but until recently, it was so
infrequent that I wasn't entirely sure I wasn't imagining it.

While driving at night, my dashboard lights have been going out. It
happens at an irregular interval, and they won't come back on by
themselves, but toggling the headlights on and off always resets it. I
think it only happens while the car is moving, but I'm not sure, since
I don't always notice right away (Have to keep most of my attention on
the road, obviously). The headlights stay it, and the indicators
(speed, tach, heat, turn signals etc) all still work. Most
surprisingly, the radio also stays lit (I've got an aftermarket radio
that goes completely dark when the headlights are off). The only
lights that I know are going out are the illumination for the
instrument panel and the lighting on the automatic transmission
shifter (the little lights that tell you what gear you're in. I can't
be entirely sure if any other lights are affected, because a lot of
the console lights have burned out over the years. I am pretty sure
the cruise control switch stays lit.

It's gotten markedly worse this week, though I don't know if there is
anything to that. It's been colder this week, and on Saturday, I hosed
down the engine, if that could be responsible.

Based on the wiring diagrams I've looked at, it looks like the wire
coming from the illumination fuse splits into a yellow/white wire and
a (I think) green wire, and the fault is somewhere on that white/
yellow wire.

What I want to know is where should I be looking for something to be
wrong, and what sort of wrong is it liable to be? I know in principle
where this wire goes, but I don't actually know physically the route
it takes to get to the various parts of the car. I'm also really
perplexed by the fact that when the lights go out, the *only way* to
make them come back on is to cycle the headlights on and off. What
should I be looking for, and how much disassembly of my car am I going
to have to do? I'm reasonably handy at this sort of thing, but I have
a lot of time commitments and will have to find a mechanic to do the
repairs if it takes more than a couple of hours -- and this looks like
it might be a painful sort of hunt-around-for-a-bad-wire type problem.

Anyone have any experience with this problem and know about some kind
of trick to make the fix easy?

Or heck, if there's some alternative to actually fixing it properly,
like maybe and easy place where I can hook the dashboard lights
directly into the cigarette lighter or something

Thanks as always.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:02 pm
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My guess is the problem is somewhere in the combination switch.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:19 pm
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johninKY wrote:

> My guess is the problem is somewhere in the combination switch.
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If you 'exercise' the dimmer control what happens?

Also, I GUESS there could be a common ground somewhere. If there is ever
a safe way to be idling when the problem occurs - maybe push/tug on some
different parts of the harnesses under the dash.

Carl


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:23 pm
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rraszews RemoveThis @trenchcoatsoft.com wrote:

> Been having a problem for a while now, but until recently, it was so
> infrequent that I wasn't entirely sure I wasn't imagining it.
>
> While driving at night, my dashboard lights have been going out. It
> happens at an irregular interval, and they won't come back on by
> themselves, but toggling the headlights on and off always resets it. I
> think it only happens while the car is moving, but I'm not sure, since
> I don't always notice right away (Have to keep most of my attention on
> the road, obviously). The headlights stay it, and the indicators
> (speed, tach, heat, turn signals etc) all still work. Most
> surprisingly, the radio also stays lit (I've got an aftermarket radio
> that goes completely dark when the headlights are off). The only
> lights that I know are going out are the illumination for the
> instrument panel and the lighting on the automatic transmission
> shifter (the little lights that tell you what gear you're in. I can't
> be entirely sure if any other lights are affected, because a lot of
> the console lights have burned out over the years. I am pretty sure
> the cruise control switch stays lit.
>
> It's gotten markedly worse this week, though I don't know if there is
> anything to that. It's been colder this week, and on Saturday, I hosed
> down the engine, if that could be responsible.
>
> Based on the wiring diagrams I've looked at, it looks like the wire
> coming from the illumination fuse splits into a yellow/white wire and
> a (I think) green wire, and the fault is somewhere on that white/
> yellow wire.
>
> What I want to know is where should I be looking for something to be
> wrong, and what sort of wrong is it liable to be? I know in principle
> where this wire goes, but I don't actually know physically the route
> it takes to get to the various parts of the car. I'm also really
> perplexed by the fact that when the lights go out, the *only way* to
> make them come back on is to cycle the headlights on and off. What
> should I be looking for, and how much disassembly of my car am I going
> to have to do? I'm reasonably handy at this sort of thing, but I have
> a lot of time commitments and will have to find a mechanic to do the
> repairs if it takes more than a couple of hours -- and this looks like
> it might be a painful sort of hunt-around-for-a-bad-wire type problem.
>
> Anyone have any experience with this problem and know about some kind
> of trick to make the fix easy?
>
> Or heck, if there's some alternative to actually fixing it properly,
> like maybe and easy place where I can hook the dashboard lights
> directly into the cigarette lighter or something
>
> Thanks as always.


If you 'exercise' the dimmer control what happens?

Also, I GUESS there could be a common ground somewhere. If there is ever
a safe way to be idling when the problem occurs - maybe push/tug on some
different parts of the harnesses under the dash.

I suppose you could try spraying some 'contact cleaner' inside the
steering column at the root of the combination switch - dunno what that
looks like in there though. (don't spary that suff in the ignition lock
- bad ju-ju when the lubricant gets washed outta there!)

Carl


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:37 am
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On Oct 15, 12:19 am, Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
> johninKY wrote:
> > My guess is the problem is somewhere in the combination switch.  
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> If you 'exercise' the dimmer control what happens?
>
> Also, I GUESS there could be a common ground somewhere. If there is ever
> a safe way to be idling when the problem occurs - maybe push/tug on some
> different parts of the harnesses under the dash.
>
> Carl
>
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The dimmer has no effect. Neither does switching the high-beams on and
off or using the turn signals.

One thing I tried was whacking the lower right section of the dash,
the space below the cruise switch and left of the ashtray. I installed
a kill switch for the power antenna there and thought maybe I'd
knocked something loose in the process. One time, I was able to get
the lights to flicker, but since it was onl;y once I'm not sure it
wasn't coincidence
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