1990 Celica GT-S

I cannot say for sure if the transaxle has been replaced. I believe
the engine was replaced.

I was running 56 seconds a mile thru a speed test section while
running 65 mph. If my math is correct, then the speed is correct. I
was running in 5th gear.

If they replaced the transaxle and changed the gearing then the
speedometer gear was recalibrated.

Jack

On May 16, 9:21 am, "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
> "Jack" <oregon....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1179330728.120439.257120@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I just bought a 1990 Celica GT-S. It has a five speed and driving
> > home I saw it was running around 3000 RPM between 65-70 mph. This is
> > a much higher RPM than I have seen in other Toyotas I have owned. The
> > speedometer was dead on accurate on its speed. Should I consider this
> > normal for this car?
>
> > thanks
>
> > Jack
>
> 300 RPM seems like the high side of the normal range. How did you verify
> that the speedometer was dead on accurate at 65 MPH? I assume you were if
> 5th gear? Are the transmission and differential original or replacements?
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
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On May 16, 10:28 am, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru....RemoveThis@AE86.gts> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2007 11:21:37 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>
> > "Jack" <oregon....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1179330728.120439.257120@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >>I just bought a 1990 Celica GT-S. It has a five speed and driving
> >> home I saw it was running around 3000 RPM between 65-70 mph. This is a
> >> much higher RPM than I have seen in other Toyotas I have owned. The
> >> speedometer was dead on accurate on its speed. Should I consider this
> >> normal for this car?
>
> >> thanks
>
> >> Jack
>
> > 300 RPM seems like the high side of the normal range. How did you verify
> > that the speedometer was dead on accurate at 65 MPH? I assume you were if
> > 5th gear? Are the transmission and differential original or replacements?
>
> And, what's on the car for tires?

205/50-15
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 11:21:37 -0500, Ray O wrote:

>
> "Jack" <oregondba.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1179330728.120439.257120@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>I just bought a 1990 Celica GT-S. It has a five speed and driving
>> home I saw it was running around 3000 RPM between 65-70 mph. This is a
>> much higher RPM than I have seen in other Toyotas I have owned. The
>> speedometer was dead on accurate on its speed. Should I consider this
>> normal for this car?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
> 300 RPM seems like the high side of the normal range. How did you verify
> that the speedometer was dead on accurate at 65 MPH? I assume you were if
> 5th gear? Are the transmission and differential original or replacements?


And, what's on the car for tires?
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"Jack" <oregondba RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1179330728.120439.257120@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>I just bought a 1990 Celica GT-S. It has a five speed and driving
> home I saw it was running around 3000 RPM between 65-70 mph. This is
> a much higher RPM than I have seen in other Toyotas I have owned. The
> speedometer was dead on accurate on its speed. Should I consider this
> normal for this car?
>
> thanks
>
> Jack
>

That would be lower RPM than my Supra if I remember correctly.
But if your gas mileage and performance are good then I would think
all is well either way.


Dan
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:28:26 -0700, Jack wrote:

> On May 16, 10:28 am, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru... DeleteThis @AE86.gts> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 11:21:37 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>
>> > "Jack" <oregon... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:1179330728.120439.257120@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> >>I just bought a 1990 Celica GT-S. It has a five speed and driving
>> >> home I saw it was running around 3000 RPM between 65-70 mph. This is
>> >> a much higher RPM than I have seen in other Toyotas I have owned.
>> >> The speedometer was dead on accurate on its speed. Should I consider
>> >> this normal for this car?
>>
>> >> thanks
>>
>> >> Jack
>>
>> > 300 RPM seems like the high side of the normal range. How did you
>> > verify that the speedometer was dead on accurate at 65 MPH? I assume
>> > you were if 5th gear? Are the transmission and differential original
>> > or replacements?
>>
>> And, what's on the car for tires?
>
> 205/50-15


Hmmm...that's the correct size....

I thought maybe they were replaced with a different sized tire the would
throw the speedo off, but that is the proper size...
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Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:28:26 -0700, Jack wrote:
>
>> On May 16, 10:28 am, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru....DeleteThis@AE86.gts> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 11:21:37 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Jack" <oregon....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1179330728.120439.257120@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> I just bought a 1990 Celica GT-S. It has a five speed and driving
>>>>> home I saw it was running around 3000 RPM between 65-70 mph. This is
>>>>> a much higher RPM than I have seen in other Toyotas I have owned.
>>>>> The speedometer was dead on accurate on its speed. Should I consider
>>>>> this normal for this car?
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> Jack
>>>> 300 RPM seems like the high side of the normal range. How did you
>>>> verify that the speedometer was dead on accurate at 65 MPH? I assume
>>>> you were if 5th gear? Are the transmission and differential original
>>>> or replacements?
>>> And, what's on the car for tires?
>> 205/50-15
>
>
> Hmmm...that's the correct size....
>
> I thought maybe they were replaced with a different sized tire the would
> throw the speedo off, but that is the proper size...
>


My dad has a 86 ST162 that runs at 3500rpm on the highway, this is
normal for the cars with the GE motor. he has changed the motor and
transaxle to a mid 90's JDM spec but before that it ran at about
3000rpm. if it's running well you should get close to 30mpg cruising on
the highway with that RPM.
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Jack wrote:
> I just bought a 1990 Celica GT-S. It has a five speed and driving
> home I saw it was running around 3000 RPM between 65-70 mph. This is
> a much higher RPM than I have seen in other Toyotas I have owned. The
> speedometer was dead on accurate on its speed. Should I consider this
> normal for this car?
>
> thanks
>
> Jack
>


3000rpm is normal if you have a 3S-GE motor, it can be as high as
3500rpm if it has a JDM spec drivetrain. I think even the 5S-FE motor
sits up close to that on the highway. They usually have a 4.1:1 diff and
a 0.86:1 5th gear so the revs really sit up there.
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Nick Bourne wrote:
> Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:28:26 -0700, Jack wrote:
>>
>>> On May 16, 10:28 am, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru....TakeThisOut@AE86.gts> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 11:21:37 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Jack" <oregon....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:1179330728.120439.257120@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> I just bought a 1990 Celica GT-S. It has a five speed and driving
>>>>>> home I saw it was running around 3000 RPM between 65-70 mph. This is
>>>>>> a much higher RPM than I have seen in other Toyotas I have owned.
>>>>>> The speedometer was dead on accurate on its speed. Should I consider
>>>>>> this normal for this car?
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> Jack
>>>>> 300 RPM seems like the high side of the normal range. How did you
>>>>> verify that the speedometer was dead on accurate at 65 MPH? I assume
>>>>> you were if 5th gear? Are the transmission and differential original
>>>>> or replacements?
>>>> And, what's on the car for tires?
>>> 205/50-15
>>
>>
>> Hmmm...that's the correct size....
>>
>> I thought maybe they were replaced with a different sized tire the would
>> throw the speedo off, but that is the proper size...
>>
>
>
> My dad has a 86 ST162 that runs at 3500rpm on the highway, this is
> normal for the cars with the GE motor. he has changed the motor and
> transaxle to a mid 90's JDM spec but before that it ran at about
> 3000rpm. if it's running well you should get close to 30mpg cruising on
> the highway with that RPM.


While I think about it. The Celica normally have a 4.1:1 diff and a
0.86:1 5th gear. for a 205/50-15 tyre the outside circumference is 72.5
in which is ~874 revs/mile and you do about a mile per minute on the
highway. so 874 x 4.1 x 0.86 = 3081RPM. so the 3000rpm indicated is fine.
 >> Stay informed about: 1990 Celica GT-S 

On May 17, 12:35 am, Nick Bourne <"nabourne at tpg.com.au"> wrote:
> Nick Bourne wrote:
> > Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:28:26 -0700, Jack wrote:
>
> >>> On May 16, 10:28 am, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru....TakeThisOut@AE86.gts> wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 11:21:37 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Jack" <oregon....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:1179330728.120439.257120@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>> I just bought a 1990 Celica GT-S. It has a five speed and driving
> >>>>>> home I saw it was running around 3000 RPM between 65-70 mph. This is
> >>>>>> a much higher RPM than I have seen in other Toyotas I have owned.
> >>>>>> The speedometer was dead on accurate on its speed. Should I consider
> >>>>>> this normal for this car?
> >>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>> Jack
> >>>>> 300 RPM seems like the high side of the normal range. How did you
> >>>>> verify that the speedometer was dead on accurate at 65 MPH? I assume
> >>>>> you were if 5th gear? Are the transmission and differential original
> >>>>> or replacements?
> >>>> And, what's on the car for tires?
> >>> 205/50-15
>
> >> Hmmm...that's the correct size....
>
> >> I thought maybe they were replaced with a different sized tire the would
> >> throw the speedo off, but that is the proper size...
>
> > My dad has a 86 ST162 that runs at 3500rpm on the highway, this is
> > normal for the cars with the GE motor. he has changed the motor and
> > transaxle to a mid 90's JDM spec but before that it ran at about
> > 3000rpm. if it's running well you should get close to 30mpg cruising on
> > the highway with that RPM.
>
> While I think about it. The Celica normally have a 4.1:1 diff and a
> 0.86:1 5th gear. for a 205/50-15 tyre the outside circumference is 72.5
> in which is ~874 revs/mile and you do about a mile per minute on the
> highway. so 874 x 4.1 x 0.86 = 3081RPM. so the 3000rpm indicated is fine.

Thanks to all for the info.

One more question. I believe they have replaced the engine. Where on
the engine would I find the engine code?

thanks

Jack
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"Jack" <oregondba.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On May 17, 12:35 am, Nick Bourne <"nabourne at tpg.com.au"> wrote:
> Nick Bourne wrote:
> > Hachiroku ???? wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:28:26 -0700, Jack wrote:
>
> >>> On May 16, 10:28 am, Hachiroku ???? <Tru....TakeThisOut@AE86.gts> wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 11:21:37 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Jack" <oregon....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:1179330728.120439.257120@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>> I just bought a 1990 Celica GT-S. It has a five speed and driving
> >>>>>> home I saw it was running around 3000 RPM between 65-70 mph. This
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> a much higher RPM than I have seen in other Toyotas I have owned.
> >>>>>> The speedometer was dead on accurate on its speed. Should I
> >>>>>> consider
> >>>>>> this normal for this car?
> >>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>> Jack
> >>>>> 300 RPM seems like the high side of the normal range. How did you
> >>>>> verify that the speedometer was dead on accurate at 65 MPH? I
> >>>>> assume
> >>>>> you were if 5th gear? Are the transmission and differential
> >>>>> original
> >>>>> or replacements?
> >>>> And, what's on the car for tires?
> >>> 205/50-15
>
> >> Hmmm...that's the correct size....
>
> >> I thought maybe they were replaced with a different sized tire the
> >> would
> >> throw the speedo off, but that is the proper size...
>
> > My dad has a 86 ST162 that runs at 3500rpm on the highway, this is
> > normal for the cars with the GE motor. he has changed the motor and
> > transaxle to a mid 90's JDM spec but before that it ran at about
> > 3000rpm. if it's running well you should get close to 30mpg cruising on
> > the highway with that RPM.
>
> While I think about it. The Celica normally have a 4.1:1 diff and a
> 0.86:1 5th gear. for a 205/50-15 tyre the outside circumference is 72.5
> in which is ~874 revs/mile and you do about a mile per minute on the
> highway. so 874 x 4.1 x 0.86 = 3081RPM. so the 3000rpm indicated is fine.

Thanks to all for the info.

One more question. I believe they have replaced the engine. Where on
the engine would I find the engine code?

thanks

Jack

*******
Look at the valve cover to see if anything is embossed, otherwise, it will
be cast in the block somewhere on the side.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 17:35:31 +1000, Nick Bourne wrote:

> Nick Bourne wrote:
>> Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:28:26 -0700, Jack wrote:
>>>
>>>> On May 16, 10:28 am, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru....RemoveThis@AE86.gts> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 11:21:37 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jack" <oregon....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1179330728.120439.257120@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> I just bought a 1990 Celica GT-S. It has a five speed and driving
>>>>>>> home I saw it was running around 3000 RPM between 65-70 mph. This
>>>>>>> is a much higher RPM than I have seen in other Toyotas I have
>>>>>>> owned. The speedometer was dead on accurate on its speed. Should I
>>>>>>> consider this normal for this car?
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>> 300 RPM seems like the high side of the normal range. How did you
>>>>>> verify that the speedometer was dead on accurate at 65 MPH? I
>>>>>> assume you were if 5th gear? Are the transmission and differential
>>>>>> original or replacements?
>>>>> And, what's on the car for tires?
>>>> 205/50-15
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmmm...that's the correct size....
>>>
>>> I thought maybe they were replaced with a different sized tire the
>>> would throw the speedo off, but that is the proper size...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> My dad has a 86 ST162 that runs at 3500rpm on the highway, this is
>> normal for the cars with the GE motor. he has changed the motor and
>> transaxle to a mid 90's JDM spec but before that it ran at about
>> 3000rpm. if it's running well you should get close to 30mpg cruising on
>> the highway with that RPM.
>
>
> While I think about it. The Celica normally have a 4.1:1 diff and a 0.86:1
> 5th gear. for a 205/50-15 tyre the outside circumference is 72.5 in which
> is ~874 revs/mile and you do about a mile per minute on the highway. so
> 874 x 4.1 x 0.86 = 3081RPM. so the 3000rpm indicated is fine.


HOLY CRAP! Talk about "Do the math"!
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Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2007 17:35:31 +1000, Nick Bourne wrote:
>
>> Nick Bourne wrote:
>>> Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:28:26 -0700, Jack wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On May 16, 10:28 am, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru....RemoveThis@AE86.gts> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 11:21:37 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jack" <oregon....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:1179330728.120439.257120@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> I just bought a 1990 Celica GT-S. It has a five speed and driving
>>>>>>>> home I saw it was running around 3000 RPM between 65-70 mph. This
>>>>>>>> is a much higher RPM than I have seen in other Toyotas I have
>>>>>>>> owned. The speedometer was dead on accurate on its speed. Should I
>>>>>>>> consider this normal for this car?
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>> 300 RPM seems like the high side of the normal range. How did you
>>>>>>> verify that the speedometer was dead on accurate at 65 MPH? I
>>>>>>> assume you were if 5th gear? Are the transmission and differential
>>>>>>> original or replacements?
>>>>>> And, what's on the car for tires?
>>>>> 205/50-15
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm...that's the correct size....
>>>>
>>>> I thought maybe they were replaced with a different sized tire the
>>>> would throw the speedo off, but that is the proper size...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> My dad has a 86 ST162 that runs at 3500rpm on the highway, this is
>>> normal for the cars with the GE motor. he has changed the motor and
>>> transaxle to a mid 90's JDM spec but before that it ran at about
>>> 3000rpm. if it's running well you should get close to 30mpg cruising on
>>> the highway with that RPM.
>>
>> While I think about it. The Celica normally have a 4.1:1 diff and a 0.86:1
>> 5th gear. for a 205/50-15 tyre the outside circumference is 72.5 in which
>> is ~874 revs/mile and you do about a mile per minute on the highway. so
>> 874 x 4.1 x 0.86 = 3081RPM. so the 3000rpm indicated is fine.
>
>
> HOLY CRAP! Talk about "Do the math"!
>

Yeah I was having a rain man moment
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Jack wrote:
> On May 17, 12:35 am, Nick Bourne <"nabourne at tpg.com.au"> wrote:
>> Nick Bourne wrote:
>>> Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:28:26 -0700, Jack wrote:
>>>>> On May 16, 10:28 am, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru... DeleteThis @AE86.gts> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 11:21:37 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>>>>>> "Jack" <oregon... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:1179330728.120439.257120@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> I just bought a 1990 Celica GT-S. It has a five speed and driving
>>>>>>>> home I saw it was running around 3000 RPM between 65-70 mph. This is
>>>>>>>> a much higher RPM than I have seen in other Toyotas I have owned.
>>>>>>>> The speedometer was dead on accurate on its speed. Should I consider
>>>>>>>> this normal for this car?
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>> 300 RPM seems like the high side of the normal range. How did you
>>>>>>> verify that the speedometer was dead on accurate at 65 MPH? I assume
>>>>>>> you were if 5th gear? Are the transmission and differential original
>>>>>>> or replacements?
>>>>>> And, what's on the car for tires?
>>>>> 205/50-15
>>>> Hmmm...that's the correct size....
>>>> I thought maybe they were replaced with a different sized tire the would
>>>> throw the speedo off, but that is the proper size...
>>> My dad has a 86 ST162 that runs at 3500rpm on the highway, this is
>>> normal for the cars with the GE motor. he has changed the motor and
>>> transaxle to a mid 90's JDM spec but before that it ran at about
>>> 3000rpm. if it's running well you should get close to 30mpg cruising on
>>> the highway with that RPM.
>> While I think about it. The Celica normally have a 4.1:1 diff and a
>> 0.86:1 5th gear. for a 205/50-15 tyre the outside circumference is 72.5
>> in which is ~874 revs/mile and you do about a mile per minute on the
>> highway. so 874 x 4.1 x 0.86 = 3081RPM. so the 3000rpm indicated is fine.
>
> Thanks to all for the info.
>
> One more question. I believe they have replaced the engine. Where on
> the engine would I find the engine code?
>
> thanks
>
> Jack
>
>
>
being a 1990 gts you will mostly likely have 2200 in the intake
manifold. the engine serial number of remember correctly is under top
radiator hose outlet on the back of the motor.
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