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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:45 am
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Hi All
I have noticed, that when my car is started from cold and at idle, I have
around 50-60psi of oil pressure according to a gauge that I have retro
fitted. Once the car has reached running temperature and is at idle, the
pressure reads about 20psi, at 50mph or 3-3500rpm the pressure is at
50-75psi.
I have consulted the Vizard Bible and this directs me to the Oil Pressure
Relief Valve sticking open but does not educate me to what damage could be
caused or say that you should not run the car.
This is a problem that has arrisen since fitting the gauge and simply by now
being there, I can read what the pressure is at. I have no idea if this was
a problem before as i had no gauge fitted.
I ask you what your views on this are on this please and if there is an
applicable repair that you would suggest or a clean up?
Thanks in advance,
Dick Jones.
Vehicle - Rover Mini Thirty, 1989, 998cc, Manual G/B, HS4 Carb with AAA
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:27 pm
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I have since found my Haynes manual which tells me that the oil pressure
should be at 15psi when the engine is idling and 65 when running.
Am I understanding this correctly or can some else elaborate.
Cheers
"DJ" wrote in message
> Hi All
>
> I have noticed, that when my car is started from cold and at idle, I have
> around 50-60psi of oil pressure according to a gauge that I have retro
> fitted. Once the car has reached running temperature and is at idle, the
> pressure reads about 20psi, at 50mph or 3-3500rpm the pressure is at
> 50-75psi.
> I have consulted the Vizard Bible and this directs me to the Oil Pressure
> Relief Valve sticking open but does not educate me to what damage could be
> caused or say that you should not run the car.
> This is a problem that has arrisen since fitting the gauge and simply by
> now being there, I can read what the pressure is at. I have no idea if
> this was a problem before as i had no gauge fitted.
>
> I ask you what your views on this are on this please and if there is an
> applicable repair that you would suggest or a clean up?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> Dick Jones.
> Vehicle - Rover Mini Thirty, 1989, 998cc, Manual G/B, HS4 Carb with AAA
> needle and Maniflow Freeflow Exhaust System
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:30 pm
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Sounds absolutely perfect readings to me. dont change a thing. My 93 non
cooper was pretty much the same, but only getting to around 65psi, never any
higher.
RS
"DJ" wrote in message
> Hi All
>
> I have noticed, that when my car is started from cold and at idle, I have
> around 50-60psi of oil pressure according to a gauge that I have retro
> fitted. Once the car has reached running temperature and is at idle, the
> pressure reads about 20psi, at 50mph or 3-3500rpm the pressure is at
> 50-75psi.
> I have consulted the Vizard Bible and this directs me to the Oil Pressure
> Relief Valve sticking open but does not educate me to what damage could be
> caused or say that you should not run the car.
> This is a problem that has arrisen since fitting the gauge and simply by
> now being there, I can read what the pressure is at. I have no idea if
> this was a problem before as i had no gauge fitted.
>
> I ask you what your views on this are on this please and if there is an
> applicable repair that you would suggest or a clean up?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> Dick Jones.
> Vehicle - Rover Mini Thirty, 1989, 998cc, Manual G/B, HS4 Carb with AAA
> needle and Maniflow Freeflow Exhaust System
> >> Stay informed about: 1989 Oil Pressure Reading |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:50 pm
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The official Austin Rover Service repair manual says:-
60lbf/in² running and 15lbf/in² at idle
Oil pressure warning light 6 to 10lbf/in²
Releif pressure valve opens 60lbf/in²
Cheers
"DJ" wrote in message
>I have since found my Haynes manual which tells me that the oil pressure
> should be at 15psi when the engine is idling and 65 when running.
>
> Am I understanding this correctly or can some else elaborate.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> "DJ" wrote in message
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have noticed, that when my car is started from cold and at idle, I have
>> around 50-60psi of oil pressure according to a gauge that I have retro
>> fitted. Once the car has reached running temperature and is at idle, the
>> pressure reads about 20psi, at 50mph or 3-3500rpm the pressure is at
>> 50-75psi.
>> I have consulted the Vizard Bible and this directs me to the Oil Pressure
>> Relief Valve sticking open but does not educate me to what damage could
>> be caused or say that you should not run the car.
>> This is a problem that has arrisen since fitting the gauge and simply by
>> now being there, I can read what the pressure is at. I have no idea if
>> this was a problem before as i had no gauge fitted.
>>
>> I ask you what your views on this are on this please and if there is an
>> applicable repair that you would suggest or a clean up?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>> Dick Jones.
>> Vehicle - Rover Mini Thirty, 1989, 998cc, Manual G/B, HS4 Carb with AAA
>> needle and Maniflow Freeflow Exhaust System
>>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:56 pm
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"DJ" wrote in message
>I have since found my Haynes manual which tells me that the oil pressure
> should be at 15psi when the engine is idling and 65 when running.
>
> Am I understanding this correctly or can some else elaborate.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> "DJ" wrote in message
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have noticed, that when my car is started from cold and at idle, I have
>> around 50-60psi of oil pressure according to a gauge that I have retro
>> fitted. Once the car has reached running temperature and is at idle, the
>> pressure reads about 20psi, at 50mph or 3-3500rpm the pressure is at
>> 50-75psi.
>> I have consulted the Vizard Bible and this directs me to the Oil Pressure
>> Relief Valve sticking open but does not educate me to what damage could
>> be caused or say that you should not run the car.
>> This is a problem that has arrisen since fitting the gauge and simply by
>> now being there, I can read what the pressure is at. I have no idea if
>> this was a problem before as i had no gauge fitted.
>>
>> I ask you what your views on this are on this please and if there is an
>> applicable repair that you would suggest or a clean up?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>> Dick Jones.
>> Vehicle - Rover Mini Thirty, 1989, 998cc, Manual G/B, HS4 Carb with AAA
>> needle and Maniflow Freeflow Exhaust System
>>
>
Hi DJ,
I make a point not to fit oil pressure gauges to my cars, they frighten the
life out of you when the pressure is up and down all the time,
I rely on the oil light to inform me, any way ,, high oil pressure with cold
engine due to the viscosity of the oil,, as the oil warms up so the pressure
drops, if the engine is worn, the oil pressure can drop to almost zero, but
recover if revved up,
HTH,
Fitzy
> >> Stay informed about: 1989 Oil Pressure Reading |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:43 pm
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"Fitzy" wrote in message
>
> "DJ" wrote in message
>
> >I have since found my Haynes manual which tells me that the oil pressure
> > should be at 15psi when the engine is idling and 65 when running.
> >
> > Am I understanding this correctly or can some else elaborate.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > "DJ" wrote in message
> >
> >> Hi All
> >>
> >> I have noticed, that when my car is started from cold and at idle, I
have
> >> around 50-60psi of oil pressure according to a gauge that I have retro
> >> fitted. Once the car has reached running temperature and is at idle,
the
> >> pressure reads about 20psi, at 50mph or 3-3500rpm the pressure is at
> >> 50-75psi.
> >> I have consulted the Vizard Bible and this directs me to the Oil
Pressure
> >> Relief Valve sticking open but does not educate me to what damage could
> >> be caused or say that you should not run the car.
> >> This is a problem that has arrisen since fitting the gauge and simply
by
> >> now being there, I can read what the pressure is at. I have no idea if
> >> this was a problem before as i had no gauge fitted.
> >>
> >> I ask you what your views on this are on this please and if there is an
> >> applicable repair that you would suggest or a clean up?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >>
> >>
> >> Dick Jones.
> >> Vehicle - Rover Mini Thirty, 1989, 998cc, Manual G/B, HS4 Carb with AAA
> >> needle and Maniflow Freeflow Exhaust System
> >>
> >
> Hi DJ,
> I make a point not to fit oil pressure gauges to my cars, they frighten
the
> life out of you when the pressure is up and down all the time,
> I rely on the oil light to inform me, any way ,, high oil pressure with
cold
> engine due to the viscosity of the oil,, as the oil warms up so the
pressure
> drops, if the engine is worn, the oil pressure can drop to almost zero,
but
> recover if revved up,
> HTH,
> Fitzy
> >
Hi, One problem with your reasoning, Fitzy. The oil light only tells you
when things have gone wrong, the guage tells you in advance that things
might go wrong.
keith >> Stay informed about: 1989 Oil Pressure Reading |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:35 am
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"xx" wrote in message
>
> "Fitzy" wrote in message
>
>>
>> "DJ" wrote in message
>>
>> >I have since found my Haynes manual which tells me that the oil pressure
>> > should be at 15psi when the engine is idling and 65 when running.
>> >
>> > Am I understanding this correctly or can some else elaborate.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> >
>> > "DJ" wrote in message
>> >
>> >> Hi All
>> >>
>> >> I have noticed, that when my car is started from cold and at idle, I
> have
>> >> around 50-60psi of oil pressure according to a gauge that I have retro
>> >> fitted. Once the car has reached running temperature and is at idle,
> the
>> >> pressure reads about 20psi, at 50mph or 3-3500rpm the pressure is at
>> >> 50-75psi.
>> >> I have consulted the Vizard Bible and this directs me to the Oil
> Pressure
>> >> Relief Valve sticking open but does not educate me to what damage
>> >> could
>> >> be caused or say that you should not run the car.
>> >> This is a problem that has arrisen since fitting the gauge and simply
> by
>> >> now being there, I can read what the pressure is at. I have no idea if
>> >> this was a problem before as i had no gauge fitted.
>> >>
>> >> I ask you what your views on this are on this please and if there is
>> >> an
>> >> applicable repair that you would suggest or a clean up?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dick Jones.
>> >> Vehicle - Rover Mini Thirty, 1989, 998cc, Manual G/B, HS4 Carb with
>> >> AAA
>> >> needle and Maniflow Freeflow Exhaust System
>> >>
>> >
>> Hi DJ,
>> I make a point not to fit oil pressure gauges to my cars, they frighten
> the
>> life out of you when the pressure is up and down all the time,
>> I rely on the oil light to inform me, any way ,, high oil pressure with
> cold
>> engine due to the viscosity of the oil,, as the oil warms up so the
> pressure
>> drops, if the engine is worn, the oil pressure can drop to almost zero,
> but
>> recover if revved up,
>> HTH,
>> Fitzy
>> >
> Hi, One problem with your reasoning, Fitzy. The oil light only tells you
> when things have gone wrong, the guage tells you in advance that things
> might go wrong.
>
> keith
>
I totally agree Keith,
the gauge gives you a advanced warning,
but I still prefer the light to the gauge,
(are you the real xx, Keith LOL)
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:13 pm
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You used to be able to get a higher switching low oil pressure switch. This
would come on at say 20lbf/in² instead of 6-10lbf/in² which could be too
late. Most racing/rally cars used them normally wired up to a big orange
warning light on the dash.
"Fitzy" wrote in message
>
> "xx" wrote in message
>
>>
>> "Fitzy" wrote in message
>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" wrote in message
>>>
>>> >I have since found my Haynes manual which tells me that the oil
>>> >pressure
>>> > should be at 15psi when the engine is idling and 65 when running.
>>> >
>>> > Am I understanding this correctly or can some else elaborate.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "DJ" wrote in message
>>> >
>>> >> Hi All
>>> >>
>>> >> I have noticed, that when my car is started from cold and at idle, I
>> have
>>> >> around 50-60psi of oil pressure according to a gauge that I have
>>> >> retro
>>> >> fitted. Once the car has reached running temperature and is at idle,
>> the
>>> >> pressure reads about 20psi, at 50mph or 3-3500rpm the pressure is at
>>> >> 50-75psi.
>>> >> I have consulted the Vizard Bible and this directs me to the Oil
>> Pressure
>>> >> Relief Valve sticking open but does not educate me to what damage
>>> >> could
>>> >> be caused or say that you should not run the car.
>>> >> This is a problem that has arrisen since fitting the gauge and simply
>> by
>>> >> now being there, I can read what the pressure is at. I have no idea
>>> >> if
>>> >> this was a problem before as i had no gauge fitted.
>>> >>
>>> >> I ask you what your views on this are on this please and if there is
>>> >> an
>>> >> applicable repair that you would suggest or a clean up?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks in advance,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Dick Jones.
>>> >> Vehicle - Rover Mini Thirty, 1989, 998cc, Manual G/B, HS4 Carb with
>>> >> AAA
>>> >> needle and Maniflow Freeflow Exhaust System
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> Hi DJ,
>>> I make a point not to fit oil pressure gauges to my cars, they frighten
>> the
>>> life out of you when the pressure is up and down all the time,
>>> I rely on the oil light to inform me, any way ,, high oil pressure with
>> cold
>>> engine due to the viscosity of the oil,, as the oil warms up so the
>> pressure
>>> drops, if the engine is worn, the oil pressure can drop to almost zero,
>> but
>>> recover if revved up,
>>> HTH,
>>> Fitzy
>>> >
>> Hi, One problem with your reasoning, Fitzy. The oil light only tells you
>> when things have gone wrong, the guage tells you in advance that things
>> might go wrong.
>>
>> keith
>>
> I totally agree Keith,
> the gauge gives you a advanced warning,
> but I still prefer the light to the gauge,
> (are you the real xx, Keith LOL)
> Fitzy
>
> >> Stay informed about: 1989 Oil Pressure Reading |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:28 pm
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"Fitzy" wrote in message
>
> "xx" wrote in message
>
> >
> > "Fitzy" wrote in message
> >
> >>
> >> "DJ" wrote in message
> >>
> >> >I have since found my Haynes manual which tells me that the oil
pressure
> >> > should be at 15psi when the engine is idling and 65 when running.
> >> >
> >> > Am I understanding this correctly or can some else elaborate.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "DJ" wrote in message
> >> >
> >> >> Hi All
> >> >>
> >> >> I have noticed, that when my car is started from cold and at idle, I
> > have
> >> >> around 50-60psi of oil pressure according to a gauge that I have
retro
> >> >> fitted. Once the car has reached running temperature and is at idle,
> > the
> >> >> pressure reads about 20psi, at 50mph or 3-3500rpm the pressure is at
> >> >> 50-75psi.
> >> >> I have consulted the Vizard Bible and this directs me to the Oil
> > Pressure
> >> >> Relief Valve sticking open but does not educate me to what damage
> >> >> could
> >> >> be caused or say that you should not run the car.
> >> >> This is a problem that has arrisen since fitting the gauge and
simply
> > by
> >> >> now being there, I can read what the pressure is at. I have no idea
if
> >> >> this was a problem before as i had no gauge fitted.
> >> >>
> >> >> I ask you what your views on this are on this please and if there is
> >> >> an
> >> >> applicable repair that you would suggest or a clean up?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Dick Jones.
> >> >> Vehicle - Rover Mini Thirty, 1989, 998cc, Manual G/B, HS4 Carb with
> >> >> AAA
> >> >> needle and Maniflow Freeflow Exhaust System
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> Hi DJ,
> >> I make a point not to fit oil pressure gauges to my cars, they frighten
> > the
> >> life out of you when the pressure is up and down all the time,
> >> I rely on the oil light to inform me, any way ,, high oil pressure with
> > cold
> >> engine due to the viscosity of the oil,, as the oil warms up so the
> > pressure
> >> drops, if the engine is worn, the oil pressure can drop to almost zero,
> > but
> >> recover if revved up,
> >> HTH,
> >> Fitzy
> >> >
> > Hi, One problem with your reasoning, Fitzy. The oil light only tells you
> > when things have gone wrong, the guage tells you in advance that things
> > might go wrong.
> >
> > keith
> >
> I totally agree Keith,
> the gauge gives you a advanced warning,
> but I still prefer the light to the gauge,
> (are you the real xx, Keith LOL)
> Fitzy
>
yes the real xx, just for anonimity on certain NGs
nuff sed!
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:40 pm
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"TurboJo" wrote in message
> You used to be able to get a higher switching low oil pressure switch.
> This would come on at say 20lbf/in² instead of 6-10lbf/in² which could be
> too late. Most racing/rally cars used them normally wired up to a big
> orange warning light on the dash.
>
>
Anyone remember the Hillman Avenger, there's a window cleaner near me who
still used one, roof rack and ladders, I remember they had the ignition
wired through a oil pressure light type unit, so if the oil pressure failed
then the ignition was dead also,
clever idea,,
Fitzy
> "Fitzy" wrote in message
>
>>
>> "xx" wrote in message
>>
>>>
>>> "Fitzy" wrote in message
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> >I have since found my Haynes manual which tells me that the oil
>>>> >pressure
>>>> > should be at 15psi when the engine is idling and 65 when running.
>>>> >
>>>> > Am I understanding this correctly or can some else elaborate.
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "DJ" wrote in message
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hi All
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I have noticed, that when my car is started from cold and at idle, I
>>> have
>>>> >> around 50-60psi of oil pressure according to a gauge that I have
>>>> >> retro
>>>> >> fitted. Once the car has reached running temperature and is at idle,
>>> the
>>>> >> pressure reads about 20psi, at 50mph or 3-3500rpm the pressure is at
>>>> >> 50-75psi.
>>>> >> I have consulted the Vizard Bible and this directs me to the Oil
>>> Pressure
>>>> >> Relief Valve sticking open but does not educate me to what damage
>>>> >> could
>>>> >> be caused or say that you should not run the car.
>>>> >> This is a problem that has arrisen since fitting the gauge and
>>>> >> simply
>>> by
>>>> >> now being there, I can read what the pressure is at. I have no idea
>>>> >> if
>>>> >> this was a problem before as i had no gauge fitted.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I ask you what your views on this are on this please and if there is
>>>> >> an
>>>> >> applicable repair that you would suggest or a clean up?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks in advance,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dick Jones.
>>>> >> Vehicle - Rover Mini Thirty, 1989, 998cc, Manual G/B, HS4 Carb with
>>>> >> AAA
>>>> >> needle and Maniflow Freeflow Exhaust System
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> Hi DJ,
>>>> I make a point not to fit oil pressure gauges to my cars, they frighten
>>> the
>>>> life out of you when the pressure is up and down all the time,
>>>> I rely on the oil light to inform me, any way ,, high oil pressure with
>>> cold
>>>> engine due to the viscosity of the oil,, as the oil warms up so the
>>> pressure
>>>> drops, if the engine is worn, the oil pressure can drop to almost zero,
>>> but
>>>> recover if revved up,
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Fitzy
>>>> >
>>> Hi, One problem with your reasoning, Fitzy. The oil light only tells you
>>> when things have gone wrong, the guage tells you in advance that things
>>> might go wrong.
>>>
>>> keith
>>>
>> I totally agree Keith,
>> the gauge gives you a advanced warning,
>> but I still prefer the light to the gauge,
>> (are you the real xx, Keith LOL)
>> Fitzy
>>
>>
>
> >> Stay informed about: 1989 Oil Pressure Reading |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:20 pm
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"Fitzy" wrote in message
> Anyone remember the Hillman Avenger, there's a window cleaner near me who
> still used one, roof rack and ladders, I remember they had the ignition
> wired through a oil pressure light type unit, so if the oil pressure
> failed then the ignition was dead also,
> clever idea,,
> Fitzy
What I did once was to wire the starting circuit through the brake pressure
switch for the brake lights that the old mini's used to have. That way you
had to put your foot on the brake to start the car, just another little
trick to stop the scrotes taking your cherished.
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