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Since: Jan 02, 2007 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:22 pm
Post subject: 1985 Ford Thunderbird not starting. Fuel pump info please? Archived from groups: alt>autos>ford (more info?)
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My 1985 Thunderbird gave up on me a few days ago. The engine turns over
and I've got spark at the plugs. I'm guessing its a fuel pump problem.
Is there an easy way to check the fuel pump? Also, as I understand, the
pump is in the tank. Is there top access or do I have to drop the tank.
Last question: I've seen fuel pumps anywhere from $75 to $250. What
should I be looking for? Any illustrations or procedures would be
greatly appreciated. DLL >> Stay informed about: 1985 Ford Thunderbird not starting. Fuel pump info please? |
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Since: Dec 17, 2006 Posts: 150
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:07 pm
Post subject: Re: 1985 Ford Thunderbird not starting. Fuel pump info please? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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> My 1985 Thunderbird gave up on me a few days ago. The engine turns over
> and I've got spark at the plugs. I'm guessing its a fuel pump problem.
> Is there an easy way to check the fuel pump? Also, as I understand, the
> pump is in the tank. Is there top access or do I have to drop the tank.
> Last question: I've seen fuel pumps anywhere from $75 to $250. What
> should I be looking for? Any illustrations or procedures would be
> greatly appreciated. DLL
>
In all likelihood it's the fuel pump at this age, but, you need to check the voltage
at the inertia switch in the trunk when you turn the key on. When you cycle the key,
there should be voltage at both terminals for about 3 seconds. If so, it's the pump or
wiring to the tank. If not, look to the fuel pump relay. I know it's a crude test, but
give it a shot of ether. If it fires and dies then the problem is likely from the
relay to the pump. If it doesn't fire it's a concern with the EEC-IV system.
There is no access hole, you must remove the tank to get to the pump. It is mounted
on the fuel sender assembly inside the tank. I don't know where you are located, but
be prepared to replace the fuel sender assembly also. The tubes to the sender are
prone to rust. Even if they don't leak now, once you disturb them they will. If the
rust is light (and you are in a temperate climate) this won't be a concern. If the
rust is "flaky" anywhere on either tube then replace the whole sender.
The design of the tank puts the outside of the sender in a depression in the top of
the tank. That depression holds moisture, dirt, mud, and SALT that splashes up there
during use and leads to rust.
After typing all of this I remembered that your 85 may have 2 fuel pumps. If the car
has fuel injection that looks kinda like a carburetor (CFI) then it does have 2 pumps.
The system is a bit more complicated. One pump in the tank (low pressure) and one
pump on the right frame rail (high pressure). Cycle the key from off to on and listen
to the pump on the frame and at the tank. If one runs but not the other, the dead one
is likely bad. If they both don't run, the problem is likely the relay or upstream in
the circuit. The same caveats about rust on the tank sender apply. >> Stay informed about: 1985 Ford Thunderbird not starting. Fuel pump info please? |
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Since: Jan 02, 2007 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:49 am
Post subject: Re: 1985 Ford Thunderbird not starting. Fuel pump info please? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Tom,
You made a good point. I didn't think of it but the fuel pump does
normally make a noise as soon as the key is turned before the starter
hits. I'm going to check that this morning. Whether there is a sound or
not will at least tell me more.
Thanks much,
Dale L
Tom Adkins wrote:
>
> In all likelihood it's the fuel pump at this age, but, you need to check the voltage
> at the inertia switch in the trunk when you turn the key on. When you cycle the key,
> there should be voltage at both terminals for about 3 seconds. If so, it's the pump or
> wiring to the tank. If not, look to the fuel pump relay. I know it's a crude test, but
> give it a shot of ether. If it fires and dies then the problem is likely from the
> relay to the pump. If it doesn't fire it's a concern with the EEC-IV system.
> There is no access hole, you must remove the tank to get to the pump. It is mounted
> on the fuel sender assembly inside the tank. I don't know where you are located, but
> be prepared to replace the fuel sender assembly also. The tubes to the sender are
> prone to rust. Even if they don't leak now, once you disturb them they will. If the
> rust is light (and you are in a temperate climate) this won't be a concern. If the
> rust is "flaky" anywhere on either tube then replace the whole sender.
> The design of the tank puts the outside of the sender in a depression in the top of
> the tank. That depression holds moisture, dirt, mud, and SALT that splashes up there
> during use and leads to rust.
>
> After typing all of this I remembered that your 85 may have 2 fuel pumps. If the car
> has fuel injection that looks kinda like a carburetor (CFI) then it does have 2 pumps.
> The system is a bit more complicated. One pump in the tank (low pressure) and one
> pump on the right frame rail (high pressure). Cycle the key from off to on and listen
> to the pump on the frame and at the tank. If one runs but not the other, the dead one
> is likely bad. If they both don't run, the problem is likely the relay or upstream in
> the circuit. The same caveats about rust on the tank sender apply. >> Stay informed about: 1985 Ford Thunderbird not starting. Fuel pump info please? |
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Since: Oct 13, 2006 Posts: 24
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:29 am
Post subject: Re: 1985 Ford Thunderbird not starting. Fuel pump info please? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Check the impact shut-off in the trunk, too. II think it sits atop the left
rear wheel well. Big button on the top.
PoD
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> My 1985 Thunderbird gave up on me a few days ago. The engine turns over
> and I've got spark at the plugs. I'm guessing its a fuel pump problem.
> Is there an easy way to check the fuel pump? Also, as I understand, the
> pump is in the tank. Is there top access or do I have to drop the tank.
> Last question: I've seen fuel pumps anywhere from $75 to $250. What
> should I be looking for? Any illustrations or procedures would be
> greatly appreciated. DLL
> >> Stay informed about: 1985 Ford Thunderbird not starting. Fuel pump info please? |
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