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Since: May 08, 2004
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:11 pm
Post subject: Re: 1964 GT HAWK R2 mint original car for sale [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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This could get good. Sounds like Bob knows more about GT Hawks than JP. JP
should be ashamed to sell those patched up high school restorations with the
$200 Deluxe Earl Scheib paint jobs..
Like I said, for someone who needs to sell the car for financial reasons,
waiting on $58,000 could mean living in this thing. If you want to see what
the market is for this car, put it on E-Bay and see if you get more than
half your asking price... my money would be on maybe $25K.
Lee
"Bob" <bshapton.TakeThisOut@tonedeaf.com> wrote in message
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> Have you seen and compared both cars? The red '63 is a patched up
> 'restored' car with not great paint and poor fitting panels, vinyl on
> dash, etc. etc. NO COMPARISON! and it still brought more than $30k ...
> and about $20k more was spent on it? Good investment? I don't think
> so. 1 of 9 ???? ... right, whatever. |
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:12 pm
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Bob wrote:
Not great paint
translation: Not much better then factory, but a 5K plus clear/coat
color coat
Poor fitting panels
translation: I have no idea what you are talking about unless it was the
hood which I did align.
vinyl on dash
Translation:
true, but it is the vinyl wood grain as used by the factory back in 63
No doubt your car may be nicer in some area's, but the red Hawk was not
exactly a turd. maybe a condition 2. Some folks might even prefer a
everything rebuilt/upgraded in the last 5000 miles car to a nice
original one. I did not knock your car, just commenting on current
market value.
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> Have you seen and compared both cars? The red '63 is a patched up
> 'restored' car with not great paint and poor fitting panels, vinyl on
> dash, etc. etc. NO COMPARISON! and it still brought more than $30k ...
> and about $20k more was spent on it? Good investment? I don't think
> so. 1 of 9 ???? ... right, whatever.
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My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 R2 GT Hawk
63 R2 GT Hawk
63 Lark 2 door
57 Wagon
51 Commander
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:52 pm
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"Bob" <bshapton.DeleteThis@tonedeaf.com> wrote in message
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> Lee, those are your words not mine, and I do not claim to know more
> than JP, since I've only owned maybe 60 or 70 Studes over a 35 year
> period.
Maybe, but they sure sounded a lot like the not so complimentary words you
wrote. If you have owned that many cars then you should be fairly familiar
with the current value of your car.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:03 pm
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70, hell, I owned that many by the late 1970's, 400 plus now and going
up, 20-40 year. <g>
Bob
> Lee, those are your words not mine, and I do not claim to know more
> than JP, since I've only owned maybe 60 or 70 Studes over a 35 year
> period.
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64 R2 GT Hawk
63 R2 GT Hawk
63 Lark 2 door
57 Wagon
51 Commander
39 Coupe Express
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:06 pm
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I agree, the trick is to find just the guy that prefers a nice
survivor to a trailer queen.
Bob wrote:
>> I think what this spirited dialogue boils down to is this -
> 'most' people may prefer an absolutely 'perfect' car like your green
> '64 (I'm drooling all over my keyboard) while a very few others,
> myself included, appreciate a 'survivor' simply because they are SO
> hard to find and impossible to duplicate regardless of how deep one's
> pockets. Different strokes ....
>
> Bob
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My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 R2 GT Hawk
63 R2 GT Hawk
63 Lark 2 door
57 Wagon
51 Commander
39 Coupe Express
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:21 am
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On Mar 5, 9:06 pm, John Poulos <ava....DeleteThis@erols.com> wrote:
> I agree, the trick is to find just the guy that prefers a nice
> survivor to a trailer queen.
>
> Bob wrote:
> >> I think what this spirited dialogue boils down to is this -
> > 'most' people may prefer an absolutely 'perfect' car like your green
> > '64 (I'm drooling all over my keyboard) while a very few others,
> > myself included, appreciate a 'survivor' simply because they are SO
> > hard to find and impossible to duplicate regardless of how deep one's
> > pockets. Different strokes ....
>
Anyone who would like to discuss this car directly can call me at
519-927-3966 or Skype: bob.shapton >> Stay informed about: 1964 GT HAWK R2 mint original car for sale |
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:10 pm
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On Mar 8, 1:21 pm, Bob <bshap....DeleteThis@tonedeaf.com> wrote:
> On Mar 5, 9:06 pm, John Poulos <ava....DeleteThis@erols.com> wrote:
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> > I agree, the trick is to find just the guy that prefers a nice
> > survivor to a trailer queen.
>
> > Bob wrote:
> > >> I think what this spirited dialogue boils down to is this -
> > > 'most' people may prefer an absolutely 'perfect' car like your green
> > > '64 (I'm drooling all over my keyboard) while a very few others,
> > > myself included, appreciate a 'survivor' simply because they are SO
> > > hard to find and impossible to duplicate regardless of how deep one's
> > > pockets. Different strokes ....
>
> Anyone who would like to discuss this car directly can call me at
> 519-927-3966 or Skype: bob.shapton
This car is now SOLD. >> Stay informed about: 1964 GT HAWK R2 mint original car for sale |
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:27 am
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Bob wrote:
> On Mar 8, 1:21 pm, Bob <bshap....TakeThisOut@tonedeaf.com> wrote:
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>>On Mar 5, 9:06 pm, John Poulos <ava....TakeThisOut@erols.com> wrote:
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>>> I agree, the trick is to find just the guy that prefers a nice
>>>survivor to a trailer queen.
>>
>>>Bob wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I think what this spirited dialogue boils down to is this -
>>>>
>>>>'most' people may prefer an absolutely 'perfect' car like your green
>>>>'64 (I'm drooling all over my keyboard) while a very few others,
>>>>myself included, appreciate a 'survivor' simply because they are SO
>>>>hard to find and impossible to duplicate regardless of how deep one's
>>>>pockets. Different strokes ....
>>
>>Anyone who would like to discuss this car directly can call me at
>>519-927-3966 or Skype: bob.shapton
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>
> This car is now SOLD.
Glad to hear it; hope it found a good home.
I remember your original post, that was a very nice looking car.
nate
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 11:29 pm
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Two guys standing, pissing off the side of a bridge...
1st guy: "Gee! the water's cold!"
2nd guy: "Deep, too."
In article <bYidndUuq6hp2VLanZ2dnUVZ_tOtnZ2d RemoveThis @comcast.com>, John Poulos
<avanti RemoveThis @erols.com> wrote:
> No doubt your car may be nicer in some area's, but the red Hawk was not
> exactly a turd. maybe a condition 2. Some folks might even prefer a
> everything rebuilt/upgraded in the last 5000 miles car to a nice
> original one. I did not knock your car, just commenting on current
> market value.
>
>
> >
> > Have you seen and compared both cars? The red '63 is a patched up
> > 'restored' car with not great paint and poor fitting panels, vinyl on
> > dash, etc. etc. NO COMPARISON! and it still brought more than $30k ...
> > and about $20k more was spent on it? Good investment? I don't think
> > so. 1 of 9 ???? ... right, whatever. >> Stay informed about: 1964 GT HAWK R2 mint original car for sale |
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