1964 GT HAWK R2 mint original car for sale

On Mar 5, 10:40 am, "Lee Aanderud" <aande... RemoveThis @alltel.net> wrote:
> "Bob" <bshap... RemoveThis @tonedeaf.com> wrote in message
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> > Hmmmm .... and how many '61's were built?
>
> 3,663
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Hmmmm ..... that's quite a few more than the 70 R2 Hawks made in '64,
with only 24 of those being non-package cars, and who knows how many
are mint survivors. You can easily spend this much on a proper
restoration and what do you end up with? ... an unoriginal car.
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If he can get $58K for a '64, I'll have a '61 on the next day for $56K and
personally deliver it anywhere in the US.

Lee

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> Last year of production. All ORIGINAL - paint, interior, motor,
> supercharger, etc. - and in MINT condition. 3 documented owners.
> Reluctant sale due to financial circumstances. Numbers matching car
> with unique one-of-a-kind history (delivered at factory as warranty
> replacement for defective '63 R2). Pics on request. This is a serious
> RARE car for a serious investor. $58,000.00
>
> Bob



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"Bob" <bshapton.DeleteThis@tonedeaf.com> wrote in message
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> Hmmmm .... and how many '61's were built?

3,663



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>> 3,663

> Hmmmm ..... that's quite a few more than the 70 R2 Hawks made in '64,
> with only 24 of those being non-package cars, and who knows how many
> are mint survivors. You can easily spend this much on a proper
> restoration and what do you end up with? ... an unoriginal car.

Good luck getting $58,000 for it... my advice is if someone offers you 50%
of that, grab it and run.

You might want to look over this 1 of 9 '63 to get an idea of what those
cars are selling for.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6466...ewitem=

Lee



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Maybe at Barrette Jackson on a good day. My 63 R2 just sold for 25K
on ebay, and I was offered 40K for my R2 64, but that one has a 70K
restoration to trailer queen status. It's here, and I'll hoping for 45K
in the fall.

http://www.stude.com/Sid/


Bob wrote:
> On Mar 5, 10:40 am, "Lee Aanderud" <aande... DeleteThis @alltel.net> wrote:
>> "Bob" <bshap... DeleteThis @tonedeaf.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1d69550c-f354-4486-ad1c-42f1b22381f8@13g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> Hmmmm .... and how many '61's were built?
>> 3,663
>>
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>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> Hmmmm ..... that's quite a few more than the 70 R2 Hawks made in '64,
> with only 24 of those being non-package cars, and who knows how many
> are mint survivors. You can easily spend this much on a proper
> restoration and what do you end up with? ... an unoriginal car.


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My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
64 R2 GT Hawk
63 R2 GT Hawk
63 Lark 2 door
57 Wagon
51 Commander
39 Coupe Express
39 Coupe Express (body)
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I just pulled a booger out of my nose.
It is a one of a kind, unrestored, unmolested, completely original and
showing no wear what so ever.
Does anyone think I can get $58K for it.
I doubt it.
Rarity does not equate to value. <GGGGGGGGGGG>


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"Lee Aanderud" <aanderud DeleteThis @alltel.net> wrote in message
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> "Bob" <bshapton DeleteThis @tonedeaf.com> wrote in message
> news:ba94aab5-d340-4b30-b31d-b3f66e826634@n36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >> 3,663
>
> > Hmmmm ..... that's quite a few more than the 70 R2 Hawks made in '64,
> > with only 24 of those being non-package cars, and who knows how many
> > are mint survivors. You can easily spend this much on a proper
> > restoration and what do you end up with? ... an unoriginal car.
>
> Good luck getting $58,000 for it... my advice is if someone offers you 50%
> of that, grab it and run.
>
> You might want to look over this 1 of 9 '63 to get an idea of what those
> cars are selling for.
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6466&viewi
tem=&item=300201077577
>
> Lee
>
>
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On Mar 5, 12:57 pm, "Jerry Forrester" <forr62(no spam)@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> I just pulled a booger out of my nose.
> It is a one of a kind, unrestored, unmolested, completely original and
> showing no wear what so ever.
> Does anyone think I can get $58K for it.
> I doubt it.
> Rarity does not equate to value. <GGGGGGGGGGG>
>
> --
> thanks,
> Jerry Forrester
> check out my ebay store....http://stores.ebay.com/CHROME-CHROME-CHROME
>
> "Lee Aanderud" <aande... DeleteThis @alltel.net> wrote in message
>
> news:47cebe57$0$29827$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...> "Bob" <bshap... DeleteThis @tonedeaf.com> wrote in message
> >news:ba94aab5-d340-4b30-b31d-b3f66e826634@n36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > >> 3,663
>
> > > Hmmmm ..... that's quite a few more than the 70 R2 Hawks made in '64,
> > > with only 24 of those being non-package cars, and who knows how many
> > > are mint survivors. You can easily spend this much on a proper
> > > restoration and what do you end up with? ... an unoriginal car.
>
> > Good luck getting $58,000 for it... my advice is if someone offers you 50%
> > of that, grab it and run.
>
> > You might want to look over this 1 of 9 '63 to get an idea of what those
> > cars are selling for.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=646...
> tem=&item=300201077577
>
>
>
> > Lee
>
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Have you seen and compared both cars? The red '63 is a patched up
'restored' car with not great paint and poor fitting panels, vinyl on
dash, etc. etc. NO COMPARISON! and it still brought more than $30k ...
and about $20k more was spent on it? Good investment? I don't think
so. 1 of 9 ???? ... right, whatever.
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If you send it to Jeff Rice I'll pay the postage. <G>

Lee

"Jerry Forrester" <forr62(no spam)@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>I just pulled a booger out of my nose.
> It is a one of a kind, unrestored, unmolested, completely original and
> showing no wear what so ever.
> Does anyone think I can get $58K for it.
> I doubt it.
> Rarity does not equate to value. <GGGGGGGGGGG>
>
>
> --
> thanks,
> Jerry Forrester
> check out my ebay store....
> http://stores.ebay.com/CHROME-CHROME-CHROME
>
>
> "Lee Aanderud" <aanderud.DeleteThis@alltel.net> wrote in message
> news:47cebe57$0$29827$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>> "Bob" <bshapton.DeleteThis@tonedeaf.com> wrote in message
>> news:ba94aab5-d340-4b30-b31d-b3f66e826634@n36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> >> 3,663
>>
>> > Hmmmm ..... that's quite a few more than the 70 R2 Hawks made in '64,
>> > with only 24 of those being non-package cars, and who knows how many
>> > are mint survivors. You can easily spend this much on a proper
>> > restoration and what do you end up with? ... an unoriginal car.
>>
>> Good luck getting $58,000 for it... my advice is if someone offers you
>> 50%
>> of that, grab it and run.
>>
>> You might want to look over this 1 of 9 '63 to get an idea of what those
>> cars are selling for.
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6466&viewi
> tem=&item=300201077577
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>>
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On Mar 5, 7:53 am, Bob <bshap....DeleteThis@tonedeaf.com> wrote:
> Last year of production. All ORIGINAL - paint, interior, motor,
> supercharger, etc. - and in MINT condition. 3 documented owners.
> Reluctant sale due to financial circumstances. Numbers matching car
> with unique one-of-a-kind history (delivered at factory as warranty
> replacement for defective '63 R2). Pics on request. This is a serious
> RARE car for a serious investor. $58,000.00
>
> Bob

This is some kind of really brief advertisement? I would think that
anyone interested in maximizing the potential gain from the sale of a
car of this caliber would put a little bit more effort into its sale.
Or is he expecting a line to form of people with checks in hand? I
was just wondering....
Tim K.
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Bob
>
> This is some kind of really brief advertisement? I would think that
> anyone interested in maximizing the potential gain from the sale of a
> car of this caliber would put a little bit more effort into its sale.
> Or is he expecting a line to form of people with checks in hand? I
> was just wondering....
> Tim K.

Woah! I'm sorry, I see the ad now on the forum. By the way, I've
seen the car in person and it is a real honey. Good luck, Bob.
Tim K.
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On Mar 5, 6:11 pm, "Lee Aanderud" <aande....RemoveThis@alltel.net> wrote:
> This could get good. Sounds like Bob knows more about GT Hawks than JP. JP
> should be ashamed to sell those patched up high school restorations with the
> $200 Deluxe Earl Scheib paint jobs..
>
> Like I said, for someone who needs to sell the car for financial reasons,
> waiting on $58,000 could mean living in this thing. If you want to see what
> the market is for this car, put it on E-Bay and see if you get more than
> half your asking price... my money would be on maybe $25K.
>
> Lee
>
> "Bob" <bshap....RemoveThis@tonedeaf.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> > Have you seen and compared both cars? The red '63 is a patched up
> > 'restored' car with not great paint and poor fitting panels, vinyl on
> > dash, etc. etc. NO COMPARISON! and it still brought more than $30k ...
> > and about $20k more was spent on it? Good investment? I don't think
> > so. 1 of 9 ???? ... right, whatever.

Lee, those are your words not mine, and I do not claim to know more
than JP, since I've only owned maybe 60 or 70 Studes over a 35 year
period.
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On Mar 5, 8:12 pm, John Poulos <ava....RemoveThis@erols.com> wrote:
> Bob wrote:
>
> Not great paint
>
> translation: Not much better then factory, but a 5K plus clear/coat
> color coat
>
> Poor fitting panels
>
> translation: I have no idea what you are talking about unless it was the
> hood which I did align.
>
> vinyl on dash
>
> Translation:
>
> true, but it is the vinyl wood grain as used by the factory back in 63
>
> No doubt your car may be nicer in some area's, but the red Hawk was not
> exactly a turd. maybe a condition 2.  Some folks might even prefer a
> everything rebuilt/upgraded in the last 5000 miles car to a nice
> original one. I did not knock your car, just commenting on current
> market value.
>
>
>
> > Have you seen and compared both cars? The red '63 is a patched up
> > 'restored' car with not great paint and poor fitting panels, vinyl on
> > dash, etc. etc. NO COMPARISON! and it still brought more than $30k ...
> > and about $20k more was spent on it? Good investment? I don't think
> > so. 1 of 9 ????    ... right, whatever.
>
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> JP/Maryland
> Studebaker On the Nethttp://stude.com
> My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
> 64 R2 GT Hawk
> 63 R2 GT Hawk
> 63 Lark 2 door
> 57 Wagon
> 51 Commander
> 39 Coupe Express
> 39 Coupe Express (body)

Man lots of comments by a bunch of not know it all people on this
one... This is funny...
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On Mar 5, 8:12 pm, John Poulos <ava... RemoveThis @erols.com> wrote:
> Bob wrote:
>
> Not great paint
>
> translation: Not much better then factory, but a 5K plus clear/coat
> color coat
>
> Poor fitting panels
>
> translation: I have no idea what you are talking about unless it was the
> hood which I did align.
>
> vinyl on dash
>
> Translation:
>
> true, but it is the vinyl wood grain as used by the factory back in 63
>
> No doubt your car may be nicer in some area's, but the red Hawk was not
> exactly a turd. maybe a condition 2. Some folks might even prefer a
> everything rebuilt/upgraded in the last 5000 miles car to a nice
> original one. I did not knock your car, just commenting on current
> market value.
>
>
>
> > Have you seen and compared both cars? The red '63 is a patched up
> > 'restored' car with not great paint and poor fitting panels, vinyl on
> > dash, etc. etc. NO COMPARISON! and it still brought more than $30k ...
> > and about $20k more was spent on it? Good investment? I don't think
> > so. 1 of 9 ???? ... right, whatever.
>
> --
> JP/Maryland
> Studebaker On the Nethttp://stude.com
> My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
> 64 R2 GT Hawk
> 63 R2 GT Hawk
> 63 Lark 2 door
> 57 Wagon
> 51 Commander
> 39 Coupe Express
> 39 Coupe Express (body)

John, I was not trying to disparage your car but only paraphrasing the
few shortcomings you mentioned in your listing and what I observed
regarding the fit of the passenger door and trunk lid. I don't doubt
it was a very nice car indeed, not a turd, and the auction showed its
worth. I think what this spirited dialogue boils down to is this -
'most' people may prefer an absolutely 'perfect' car like your green
'64 (I'm drooling all over my keyboard) while a very few others,
myself included, appreciate a 'survivor' simply because they are SO
hard to find and impossible to duplicate regardless of how deep one's
pockets. Different strokes ....

Bob
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