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kaabdalis

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:46 am
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Hi!

I have an old (but still going strong) Toyota Corolla 1.6 16v.

My problem:

For the last couple of weeks the battery warning light has been lit
random.
The strange thing is that if you turn on anything (like the fan, the
radio etc) the
warning light turns off.

However, the last days the warning light is ALWAYS iluminated (when the
engine is running)

Any suggestions?

My thought is that the alternator is faulty, but why did the warning
light turn off when i changed the speed of the fan?

Does Anyone have any idea of test that i can run order to localize the
fault?

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n5hsr

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:51 am
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"kaabdalis" wrote in message

> Hi!
>
> I have an old (but still going strong) Toyota Corolla 1.6 16v.
>
> My problem:
>
> For the last couple of weeks the battery warning light has been lit
> random.
> The strange thing is that if you turn on anything (like the fan, the
> radio etc) the
> warning light turns off.
>
> However, the last days the warning light is ALWAYS iluminated (when the
> engine is running)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> My thought is that the alternator is faulty, but why did the warning
> light turn off when i changed the speed of the fan?
>
> Does Anyone have any idea of test that i can run order to localize the
> fault?
>

OK. In my 1993 Toyota Corolla made in America, it finally did that. Turns
out the alternator was a Delco and couldn't handle being in a Toyota engine.

WE had a similar problem with the Previa, but in that case it wasn't the
alternator. The original 8 year old Panasonic battery had lost a cell or
two by then.

Get someone that has some real electrical tools to check both the battery
and the alternator. A new battery is cheap, but even a rebuilt alternator
is cheaper than damaging the electrical system.

Charles of Schaumburg

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Wolfgang

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:37 am
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In some model Yota that light is dual purpose and also covers the brake
system/reservoir - check it to see if it is full. Also check owners manual
to see if thats tru for your model.

"kaabdalis" wrote in message

> Hi!
>
> I have an old (but still going strong) Toyota Corolla 1.6 16v.
>
> My problem:
>
> For the last couple of weeks the battery warning light has been lit
> random.
> The strange thing is that if you turn on anything (like the fan, the
> radio etc) the
> warning light turns off.
>
> However, the last days the warning light is ALWAYS iluminated (when the
> engine is running)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> My thought is that the alternator is faulty, but why did the warning
> light turn off when i changed the speed of the fan?
>
> Does Anyone have any idea of test that i can run order to localize the
> fault?
>
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High Tech Misfit

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:44 am
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n5hsr wrote:

> Turns
> out the alternator was a Delco and couldn't handle being in a Toyota engine.

Delco alternators can't handle being in GM cars either. My folks had a
Grand Prix that was on its 4th Delco alternator when they got rid of it at
only 90,000 miles.
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mrcheerful 1

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 12:34 pm
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"kaabdalis" wrote in message

> Hi!
>
> I have an old (but still going strong) Toyota Corolla 1.6 16v.
>
> My problem:
>
> For the last couple of weeks the battery warning light has been lit
> random.
> The strange thing is that if you turn on anything (like the fan, the
> radio etc) the
> warning light turns off.
>
> However, the last days the warning light is ALWAYS iluminated (when the
> engine is running)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> My thought is that the alternator is faulty, but why did the warning
> light turn off when i changed the speed of the fan?
>
> Does Anyone have any idea of test that i can run order to localize the
> fault?

at that age it probably needs new brushes in the alternator
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kaabdalis

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:14 pm
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Thanx for the answers,

I've spent the entire day searching for errors.
I discovered that the alternator only generates a 0.5 V Voltage.
The brushes was renewed by the previous owner when the car had gone
for15000 km
Now the odometer is showing 33000km . So the brushes are probalby worn
out by now..

I will get back to you when i've changed the brushes.

/Kaabdalis

mrcheerful
. skrev:

> "kaabdalis" wrote in message
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have an old (but still going strong) Toyota Corolla 1.6 16v.
> >
> > My problem:
> >
> > For the last couple of weeks the battery warning light has been lit
> > random.
> > The strange thing is that if you turn on anything (like the fan, the
> > radio etc) the
> > warning light turns off.
> >
> > However, the last days the warning light is ALWAYS iluminated (when the
> > engine is running)
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > My thought is that the alternator is faulty, but why did the warning
> > light turn off when i changed the speed of the fan?
> >
> > Does Anyone have any idea of test that i can run order to localize the
> > fault?
>
> at that age it probably needs new brushes in the alternator
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n5hsr

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:48 pm
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"High Tech Misfit" wrote in message

> n5hsr wrote:
>
>> Turns
>> out the alternator was a Delco and couldn't handle being in a Toyota
>> engine.
>
> Delco alternators can't handle being in GM cars either. My folks had a
> Grand Prix that was on its 4th Delco alternator when they got rid of it at
> only 90,000 miles.

What's really weird is that supposedly the Delco alternator and its
Nippondenso replacement were rated the same and supposed to be nearly
identical units. Why does the ND last 5 times or better the Delco-Ream-me?

Charles of Schaumburg
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kaabdalis

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:02 pm
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Yep, I did find a Rebuilder shop. It would cost about $50 to rebuild
my alternator.
But I bought a used alternator from a scrapyard at $30. And I do have
new brushes when that time comes...

I will keep the old alternator and try to rebuild it myself in order to
learn more about alternators.

//Kaabdalis
Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
> On 13 Jun 2006 02:59:49 -0700, "kaabdalis" wrote:
>
>
> >Well, I'm not gonna buy a new Voltage regulator.
> >The storeprice was about $200 . My car isn't worth that kind of
> >money.
> >It looks like i have to buy an used alternator from the scrapyard.
>
> You are shopping in the wrong places! Rebuilders buy the generic
> ones in bulk for something around $10 - $20 each.
>
> Find a good local rebuild shop that does their own work, bring in
> your old unit, tell them the brushes are already done and that wasn't
> it. And I'll bet they can hand you back your alternator the next day
> for under $100 (mine have been around $50, but things change) all
> cleaned up, fixed up, and good as new.
>
> They have the tools, supplies, parts, and experience. Some days it
> doesn't pay to mess with it yourself, when doing it right is cheap.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--
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Bruce L. Bergman

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:30 pm
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On 13 Jun 2006 02:59:49 -0700, "kaabdalis" wrote:


>Well, I'm not gonna buy a new Voltage regulator.
>The storeprice was about $200 . My car isn't worth that kind of
>money.
>It looks like i have to buy an used alternator from the scrapyard.

You are shopping in the wrong places! Rebuilders buy the generic
ones in bulk for something around $10 - $20 each.

Find a good local rebuild shop that does their own work, bring in
your old unit, tell them the brushes are already done and that wasn't
it. And I'll bet they can hand you back your alternator the next day
for under $100 (mine have been around $50, but things change) all
cleaned up, fixed up, and good as new.

They have the tools, supplies, parts, and experience. Some days it
doesn't pay to mess with it yourself, when doing it right is cheap.

--<< Bruce >>--
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Gord Beaman

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:29 pm
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Bruce L. Bergman wrote:

>On 13 Jun 2006 02:59:49 -0700, "kaabdalis" wrote:
>
>
>>Well, I'm not gonna buy a new Voltage regulator.
>>The storeprice was about $200 . My car isn't worth that kind of
>>money.
>>It looks like i have to buy an used alternator from the scrapyard.
>
> You are shopping in the wrong places! Rebuilders buy the generic
>ones in bulk for something around $10 - $20 each.
>
> Find a good local rebuild shop that does their own work, bring in
>your old unit, tell them the brushes are already done and that wasn't
>it. And I'll bet they can hand you back your alternator the next day
>for under $100 (mine have been around $50, but things change) all
>cleaned up, fixed up, and good as new.
>
> They have the tools, supplies, parts, and experience. Some days it
>doesn't pay to mess with it yourself, when doing it right is cheap.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--

I heartily agree...you futz around, rip off your knuckles, spend
bucks then find for about the same price some specialty shop
could have done the same work in half the time (and probably
better)...shucks...
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)
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Ray O

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:29 pm
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"Gord Beaman" wrote in message


<snipped>

>> They have the tools, supplies, parts, and experience. Some days it
>>doesn't pay to mess with it yourself, when doing it right is cheap.
>>
>> --<< Bruce >>--
>
> I heartily agree...you futz around, rip off your knuckles, spend
> bucks then find for about the same price some specialty shop
> could have done the same work in half the time (and probably
> better)...shucks...
> --
>
> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)

I believe this is true of most tasks that requires tools, whether it is
installing a wax ring on a toilet or replacing the ballast on a fluorescent
light, mudding drywall, or replacing brake pads. All of those tasks
(except for the brake job) takes me at least twice or 3 times as long to
perform as it would for a pro.

On the other hand, I'm too cheap to pay someone to do those jobs and if I
didn't tackle those jobs, I wouldn't have any war stories to tell around the
campfire afterwards.

--

Ray O
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Scott in Florida

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:29 pm
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:29 pm
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"Scott in Florida" wrote in message

> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:28:18 -0500, "Ray O"
> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
>>
>>
>><snipped>
>>
>>>> They have the tools, supplies, parts, and experience. Some days it
>>>>doesn't pay to mess with it yourself, when doing it right is cheap.
>>>>
>>>> --<< Bruce >>--
>>>
>>> I heartily agree...you futz around, rip off your knuckles, spend
>>> bucks then find for about the same price some specialty shop
>>> could have done the same work in half the time (and probably
>>> better)...shucks...
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Gord.
>>> (use gordon in email)
>>
>>I believe this is true of most tasks that requires tools, whether it is
>>installing a wax ring on a toilet or replacing the ballast on a
>>fluorescent
>>light, mudding drywall, or replacing brake pads. All of those tasks
>>(except for the brake job) takes me at least twice or 3 times as long to
>>perform as it would for a pro.
>>
>>On the other hand, I'm too cheap to pay someone to do those jobs and if I
>>didn't tackle those jobs, I wouldn't have any war stories to tell around
>>the
>>campfire afterwards.
>
> Or......blood on your hands....LOL
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida

LOL! Those scars are proof that I actually tried to do something with my
own hands!
--

Ray O
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:47 pm
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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:

>
>"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
>
>
><snipped>
>
>>> They have the tools, supplies, parts, and experience. Some days it
>>>doesn't pay to mess with it yourself, when doing it right is cheap.
>>>
>>> --<< Bruce >>--
>>
>> I heartily agree...you futz around, rip off your knuckles, spend
>> bucks then find for about the same price some specialty shop
>> could have done the same work in half the time (and probably
>> better)...shucks...
>> --
>>
>> -Gord.
>> (use gordon in email)
>
>I believe this is true of most tasks that requires tools, whether it is
>installing a wax ring on a toilet or replacing the ballast on a fluorescent
>light, mudding drywall, or replacing brake pads. All of those tasks
>(except for the brake job) takes me at least twice or 3 times as long to
>perform as it would for a pro.
>
>On the other hand, I'm too cheap to pay someone to do those jobs and if I
>didn't tackle those jobs, I wouldn't have any war stories to tell around the
>campfire afterwards.

Yep!...you're being paid for your work but in a different coin
than some!...who's to say which coin has the higher exchange
rate?!?... Smile
--

-Gord.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:47 pm
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"Gord Beaman" wrote in message

> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
>>
>>
>><snipped>
>>
>>>> They have the tools, supplies, parts, and experience. Some days it
>>>>doesn't pay to mess with it yourself, when doing it right is cheap.
>>>>
>>>> --<< Bruce >>--
>>>
>>> I heartily agree...you futz around, rip off your knuckles, spend
>>> bucks then find for about the same price some specialty shop
>>> could have done the same work in half the time (and probably
>>> better)...shucks...
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Gord.
>>> (use gordon in email)
>>
>>I believe this is true of most tasks that requires tools, whether it is
>>installing a wax ring on a toilet or replacing the ballast on a
>>fluorescent
>>light, mudding drywall, or replacing brake pads. All of those tasks
>>(except for the brake job) takes me at least twice or 3 times as long to
>>perform as it would for a pro.
>>
>>On the other hand, I'm too cheap to pay someone to do those jobs and if I
>>didn't tackle those jobs, I wouldn't have any war stories to tell around
>>the
>>campfire afterwards.
>
> Yep!...you're being paid for your work but in a different coin
> than some!...who's to say which coin has the higher exchange
> rate?!?... Smile
> --
>
> -Gord.
> (use gordon in email)


There are not many TV shows that catch my attention, so I'd rather just
putter around. Next job to tackle is taking apart our Brother laser
fax/printer that I jammed, if I can just figure out how to get it apart...
--

Ray O
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