alfa 159

"Stephen Poley" <sbpoleySpicedHamTrap RemoveThis @xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 06:21:19 +0100, "Franck PAULUZZI"
> <franck.pauluzzi RemoveThis @wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
>>Can you give me your feed back about the neww159.
>
> If you check the archive for the group, you'll see there isn't much
> feedback to give yet. However I drove one for half an hour and was
> sufficiently impressed to order one. Was there something special you
> wanted to know?
>
> --
> Stephen Poley



I'm extremely impressed with them, build quality looks superb and they've
addressed pretty much everything that was an issue with the 156, ie
suspension, variators, timing belts, gearboxes etc etc
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:05:23 GMT, "Spark" <sparkmcr.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I'm extremely impressed with them, build quality looks superb and they've
>addressed pretty much everything that was an issue with the 156, ie
>suspension, variators, timing belts, gearboxes etc etc

er..correction..they *claim* they have!

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"Zathras" <webnewsgroup RemoveThis @nospamthanks.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:05:23 GMT, "Spark" <sparkmcr RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I'm extremely impressed with them, build quality looks superb and they've
>>addressed pretty much everything that was an issue with the 156, ie
>>suspension, variators, timing belts, gearboxes etc etc
>
> er..correction..they *claim* they have!
>
> --
> Z
> Scotland
> Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather
> 'Oil' be seeing you..
> (Email without 'Alfa' in subject are auto-deleted..sorry!)

well having seen most of the above in pieces I'd have to agree with their
"claims"
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Well, my 2000 156SW which I drove until this Febraury had absolutely no
problem over 165.000km (100.000mi), only oil, tyres and brake pads.
My present GT prooves they have gone even further.
So the 159 will meet that at least.
"Zathras" <webnewsgroup.TakeThisOut@nospamthanks.hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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> On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:05:23 GMT, "Spark" <sparkmcr.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I'm extremely impressed with them, build quality looks superb and they've
>>addressed pretty much everything that was an issue with the 156, ie
>>suspension, variators, timing belts, gearboxes etc etc
>
> er..correction..they *claim* they have!
>
> --
> Z
> Scotland
> Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather
> 'Oil' be seeing you..
> (Email without 'Alfa' in subject are auto-deleted..sorry!)
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"alfistagj" <alfistagjREMOVE DeleteThis @THISchello.nl> wrote in message
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> Well, my 2000 156SW which I drove until this Febraury had absolutely no
> problem over 165.000km (100.000mi), only oil, tyres and brake pads.
> My present GT prooves they have gone even further.
> So the 159 will meet that at least.
> "Zathras" <webnewsgroup DeleteThis @nospamthanks.hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:05:23 GMT, "Spark" <sparkmcr DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm extremely impressed with them, build quality looks superb and they've
>>>addressed pretty much everything that was an issue with the 156, ie
>>>suspension, variators, timing belts, gearboxes etc etc
>>
>> er..correction..they *claim* they have!
>>
>> --
>> Z
>> Scotland
>> Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather
>> 'Oil' be seeing you..
>> (Email without 'Alfa' in subject are auto-deleted..sorry!)
>
>

well the GT has a few refinements over 147/156 designs, however the 159 has
radical rethinks on most of the major trouble causing problems of its
predecessors, ie suspension is totally diffrerent, variators are totally
different, no petrol timing belts etc etc
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 23:02:16 GMT, "Spark" <sparkmcr RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
wrote:

>well the GT has a few refinements over 147/156 designs, however the 159 has
>radical rethinks on most of the major trouble causing problems of its
>predecessors, ie suspension is totally diffrerent, variators are totally
>different, no petrol timing belts etc etc

'Different' doesn't automatically mean 'better'. In fact 'different'
is one of the reasons I wait a couple of years after launch of a new
model so the manufacturer actually has a handle on the teething
troubles. No manufacturer tests like thousands of customers do all
over the world.

Anyway, their parts supply chain is still very dodgy (part on order
for a month and no sign yet - and I'm not alone) so some things are
not obviously changing for the better. Alfa assured me four and a half
years ago that their poor parts supply was a thing of the past and
that the 156 was built to German standards - experience now tells me
to take *everything* Alfa says with a pinch of salt.

YMMV!

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On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 20:57:58 GMT, Zathras
<webnewsgroup.TakeThisOut@nospamthanks.hotmail.com>, wrote:

>Anyway, their parts supply chain is still very dodgy (part on order
>for a month and no sign yet - and I'm not alone) so some things are
>not obviously changing for the better. Alfa assured me four and a half
>years ago that their poor parts supply was a thing of the past and
>that the 156 was built to German standards - experience now tells me
>to take *everything* Alfa says with a pinch of salt.

Yep. Like waiting 12 weeks for a front door hinge that sheered off
under warranty less than 10K miles on the road. OK so maybe the weld
could have failed on any make, but 12 weeks to even obtain the part
for there most popular model? That is not service to smile at.

Pete
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Pete wrote:

> Yep. Like waiting 12 weeks for a front door hinge that sheered off
> under warranty less than 10K miles on the road. OK so maybe the weld
> could have failed on any make, but 12 weeks to even obtain the part
> for there most popular model? That is not service to smile at.

I waited 9 months for a centre head rest cover (the car was supplied
without a centre head rest even though it was part of the
specification). No doubt they were waiting for a cow of the right colour...

Having said that I have found my local Alfa dealer (Simonstone) to be
extremely helpful and have given good customer service. The parts supply
is out of their control.
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:52:51 +0200, Antti <ana DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote:

>Zathras said the following on 25.12.2005 22:57:
>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 23:02:16 GMT, "Spark" <sparkmcr DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
>
>>
>> Anyway, their parts supply chain is still very dodgy (part on order
>> for a month and no sign yet - and I'm not alone) so some things are
>> not obviously changing for the better. Alfa assured me four and a half
>> years ago that their poor parts supply was a thing of the past and
>> that the 156 was built to German standards - experience now tells me
>> to take *everything* Alfa says with a pinch of salt.
>>
>Is that Alfa who says or your local importer?

Both. The UK importer is Alfa UK.

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On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:56:51 +0200, Antti <ana.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:

>Spark said the following on 24.12.2005 18:05:
>
>>
>> I'm extremely impressed with them, build quality looks superb and they've
>> addressed pretty much everything that was an issue with the 156, ie
>> suspension, variators, timing belts, gearboxes etc etc
>>
>
>Suspension bushes has been the only issue in my 156s, gearbox?? whats
>wrong with it?

Selespeed perhaps?

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'Oil' be seeing you..
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>
> 'Different' doesn't automatically mean 'better'.

No this is true, however for instnace the design of the new type twin
variators stops them from rattling which is the only problem they ever
suffered from.
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