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michaeltnull

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:13 pm
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My son-in-law will be looking for a car soon. His budget is $1500, a gift
from his parents. I am an experienced DIYer, but I don't want to spend all
my time chasing problems and want to avoid problems that can't be fixed with
wrecking yard parts. Any recommendatons?

Mike

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:13 pm
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Stay away from early escorts. Interference motor, pistons hit valves
when the timing belt breaks , not sure what years though. And i've
been told contours are nothing but money pits at high mileage. I had
a 2.3 mustang for my first car and it was easy to work on, tons around
the scrapyards for cheap parts. I would avoid the 3.8 cfi mustangs
though, my 86 never got better than 12 on the highway with a 3 speed
auto and a 2.73 rear. It always ran rich and I never could figure it
out (even with the ford shop books and a breakout box) . Beware of
cheap lincolns too, all the electric doo dads can get to be a real pain
when they get old. My current car is a 89 mk 7 and I've gotten to know
the evtm pretty well.


Good luck,

John


Michael Pardee wrote:
> My son-in-law will be looking for a car soon. His budget is $1500, a gift
> from his parents. I am an experienced DIYer, but I don't want to spend all
> my time chasing problems and want to avoid problems that can't be fixed with
> wrecking yard parts. Any recommendatons?
>
> Mike

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:13 pm
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Michael Pardee wrote:
> My son-in-law will be looking for a car soon. His budget is $1500, a gift
> from his parents. I am an experienced DIYer, but I don't want to spend all
> my time chasing problems and want to avoid problems that can't be fixed with
> wrecking yard parts. Any recommendatons?
>
> Mike

Maybe there's a used crown vic waiting somewhere with your son's name
on it.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:55 am
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull.DeleteThis@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
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> My son-in-law will be looking for a car soon. His budget is $1500, a gift
> from his parents. I am an experienced DIYer, but I don't want to spend all
> my time chasing problems and want to avoid problems that can't be fixed
> with wrecking yard parts. Any recommendatons?
>
> Mike

I would spend it on an Apple Mac. But I think you mean a car.

Older Ford Tauri may be good. Or a Contour. I have had very few problems
with my contour.

Another option is a certificate of deposit. Put the money in the bank for
say two years, take the bus or keep the old car going, and with the savings,
buy a new car in a few years. Where I live, I take the bus or train. Not
everyone has that option.

Jeff
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:45 am
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Michael Pardee wrote:
> My son-in-law will be looking for a car soon. His budget is $1500, a gift
> from his parents. I am an experienced DIYer, but I don't want to spend all
> my time chasing problems and want to avoid problems that can't be fixed with
> wrecking yard parts. Any recommendatons?
>
> Mike
>
>
I'd like to recommend a 90-92 Lincoln Mark VII. It's a T-bird/ Mustang chassis with
a little bulk to back it up. (Mustang GT in a tuxedo) Mustang GT driveline with ABS
and a rev limiter to hold it back a bit. $30K+ when new, $1500 all over now with
~100K+ miles. $450 for complete air suspension replacement, $50 for probable EATC
repair, and son in law (and daughter??) will have a larger car, with ABS, SRS, good
performance, and decent fuel mileage (20-28)that can last, with normal maintenance, up
to 300K miles.
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Backyard Mechanic

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:55 am
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull.RemoveThis@cybertrails.com> wrote:

> My son-in-law will be looking for a car soon. His budget is $1500, a
> gift from his parents. I am an experienced DIYer, but I don't want to
> spend all my time chasing problems and want to avoid problems that
> can't be fixed with wrecking yard parts. Any recommendatons?

Hopefully your time on that car will be spent teaching not doing it for
him.

Value for money...

A higher mileage well maintained, 95 up, 3.8L Tbird. One where the
headgaskets have been replaced. Great road car, cheap parts.. good mileage

You didnt mention WHAT kind of car... if a family car, look for a 95 Taurus
GL 3.0L, with AX4N (may be stamped SHO on pan) trans. Bet there's some
geezers finally getting rid of their well maintained 100 K mile cars... and
there's another 100k in it.

Easy to work on, a few quirks, like weak window motors but easy to fix


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you pay..DEAL with it!
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Howard Nelson1

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:55 am
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull RemoveThis @cybertrails.com> wrote in message
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> My son-in-law will be looking for a car soon. His budget is $1500, a gift
> from his parents. I am an experienced DIYer, but I don't want to spend all
> my time chasing problems and want to avoid problems that can't be fixed
with
> wrecking yard parts. Any recommendatons?
>
> Mike

Best car I found for reliability, safety and ability to work on without
sophistocated testing gear were non turbo 240 Volvos. I can post this
because Ford now owns volvo. You should be able to find one for $1500. Red
block 4 cylinders go forever, come with sticks. The best IMO are 1987-1990
sedans and wagons. Biodegradable wiring had been replaced and they had not
gotten too complicated. If you want ABS and airbag need to to the later
models or 700 series. Those probably will run a little more than $1500.
Just my opinion. My kids had them and they were great, economical DIY cars.
Howard
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ShoeSalesman

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:55 am
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Michael Pardee wrote:
> My son-in-law will be looking for a car soon. His budget is $1500, a gift
> from his parents. I am an experienced DIYer, but I don't want to spend all
> my time chasing problems and want to avoid problems that can't be fixed with
> wrecking yard parts. Any recommendatons?
>
> Mike
>
>
honda civic.........only problems are the axle boots..........awesome
mileage...do get one new enough to be fuel injected with a 4 cyl.........
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:55 am
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Michael Pardee wrote:
> My son-in-law will be looking for a car soon. His budget is $1500, a gift
> from his parents. I am an experienced DIYer, but I don't want to spend all
> my time chasing problems and want to avoid problems that can't be fixed with
> wrecking yard parts. Any recommendatons?
>
> Mike
>
>

If i had only 1500, i wouldn't get a ford, thats for sure. i'd get a
Honda Accord, or a Honda Civic 92-95, or a toyota corolla. i picked up
2000 corolla 5spd 4cylynder 242KMS on it for $2k for my brother.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:55 am
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Ya I'd be looking at one of those cheap hondas that seem to not break. You
can get a late 90's Taurus for 15 but it probably wouldnt be a good idea.


"Picasso" <Picasso.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> My son-in-law will be looking for a car soon. His budget is $1500, a gift
>> from his parents. I am an experienced DIYer, but I don't want to spend
>> all my time chasing problems and want to avoid problems that can't be
>> fixed with wrecking yard parts. Any recommendatons?
>>
>> Mike
>
> If i had only 1500, i wouldn't get a ford, thats for sure. i'd get a
> Honda Accord, or a Honda Civic 92-95, or a toyota corolla. i picked up
> 2000 corolla 5spd 4cylynder 242KMS on it for $2k for my brother.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:06 am
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Buy her a pass to ride your local public transportation system, WBMA


mike


"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull RemoveThis @cybertrails.com> wrote in message
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> My son-in-law will be looking for a car soon. His budget is $1500, a gift
> from his parents. I am an experienced DIYer, but I don't want to spend all
> my time chasing problems and want to avoid problems that can't be fixed
> with wrecking yard parts. Any recommendatons?
>
> Mike
>
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michaeltnull

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:18 am
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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2.DeleteThis@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> Buy her a pass to ride your local public transportation system, WBMA
>
>
> mike
>

That would be a good solution, but he needs a car for his job. Well, that
and the bus doesn't run on weekends and he has to work weekends.

On the public transportation subject... I used to live in the Oakland, CA
area and was spoiled by the reliable and pervasive bus service. When I moved
to the Phoenix area in 1973 I was shocked that not only was service very
limited, but buses were often late... sometimes three hours late. Sometimes
the last bus of the week didn't come at all. They've improved somewhat since
then, but now we live in Flagstaff.

Mike
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:55 am
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Max Power wrote:
> Ya I'd be looking at one of those cheap hondas that seem to not break. You
> can get a late 90's Taurus for 15 but it probably wouldnt be a good idea.
>
>
> "Picasso" <Picasso.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> My son-in-law will be looking for a car soon. His budget is $1500, a gift
>>> from his parents. I am an experienced DIYer, but I don't want to spend
>>> all my time chasing problems and want to avoid problems that can't be
>>> fixed with wrecking yard parts. Any recommendatons?
>>>
>>> Mike
>> If i had only 1500, i wouldn't get a ford, thats for sure. i'd get a
>> Honda Accord, or a Honda Civic 92-95, or a toyota corolla. i picked up
>> 2000 corolla 5spd 4cylynder 242KMS on it for $2k for my brother.
>
>

nope, i would steer clear. unless you can find a crown vic perhaps
they seem to be reliable old cars. I wouldn't consider an old taurus.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:55 am
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"Picasso" <Picasso.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Max Power wrote:
>> Ya I'd be looking at one of those cheap hondas that seem to not break.
>> You can get a late 90's Taurus for 15 but it probably wouldnt be a good
>> idea.
>>
>>
>> "Picasso" <Picasso.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5Iaeh.30062$cz.452422@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> My son-in-law will be looking for a car soon. His budget is $1500, a
>>>> gift from his parents. I am an experienced DIYer, but I don't want to
>>>> spend all my time chasing problems and want to avoid problems that
>>>> can't be fixed with wrecking yard parts. Any recommendatons?
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>> If i had only 1500, i wouldn't get a ford, thats for sure. i'd get a
>>> Honda Accord, or a Honda Civic 92-95, or a toyota corolla. i picked up
>>> 2000 corolla 5spd 4cylynder 242KMS on it for $2k for my brother.
>>
>>
>
> nope, i would steer clear. unless you can find a crown vic perhaps they
> seem to be reliable old cars. I wouldn't consider an old taurus.

I appreciate the info. My #2 son had an early Taurus that hadn't been
maintained, and that was a nightmare. I don't know what they are like
otherwise. I have only replaced alternator/regulator/battery (neither the
alternator nor the battery liked the regulator telling it to charge full
bore all the time) on a friend's Taurus. At least the parts were inexpensive
and easy to access.

And the Contour is off my list, based on other advice. Crown Vics are on the
list.

Mike
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:56 pm
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 08:32:01 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull.TakeThisOut@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>"Picasso" <Picasso.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Max Power wrote:
>>> Ya I'd be looking at one of those cheap hondas that seem to not break.
>>> You can get a late 90's Taurus for 15 but it probably wouldnt be a good
>>> idea.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Picasso" <Picasso.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5Iaeh.30062$cz.452422@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>>> My son-in-law will be looking for a car soon. His budget is $1500, a
>>>>> gift from his parents. I am an experienced DIYer, but I don't want to
>>>>> spend all my time chasing problems and want to avoid problems that
>>>>> can't be fixed with wrecking yard parts. Any recommendatons?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>> If i had only 1500, i wouldn't get a ford, thats for sure. i'd get a
>>>> Honda Accord, or a Honda Civic 92-95, or a toyota corolla. i picked up
>>>> 2000 corolla 5spd 4cylynder 242KMS on it for $2k for my brother.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> nope, i would steer clear. unless you can find a crown vic perhaps they
>> seem to be reliable old cars. I wouldn't consider an old taurus.
>
>I appreciate the info. My #2 son had an early Taurus that hadn't been
>maintained, and that was a nightmare. I don't know what they are like
>otherwise. I have only replaced alternator/regulator/battery (neither the
>alternator nor the battery liked the regulator telling it to charge full
>bore all the time) on a friend's Taurus. At least the parts were inexpensive
>and easy to access.
>
>And the Contour is off my list, based on other advice. Crown Vics are on the
>list.
>
>Mike
>
Late escorts are basically Mazdas - very reliable, reasonable to
repair, and reasonable to buy. You can likely find one that's not real
pretty for $1500 that will still go for quite a while.

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