Any way to keep the 12 v outlets ON on my Sienna?

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"Mad As Hell" <madr.DeleteThis@anonmail.com> wrote in message
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>> I love my 07 Sienna van...but....the interior 12 volt outlets go
>> off when the key goes off.
>>
>> I know the reason ( to prevent battery run down if something is plugged
>> in)...but...I would far rather take a chance on leaving something
>> plugged in and running down the battery..over..having my Garmin GPS and
>> my external XP radio go dead EVERY single time I jump out of the car for
>> a few minutes. The battery back-up in each of those devices doesn't last
>> long enough.
>>
>> Any ideas or suggestions appreciated. I did read the manual but
>> couldn't find any re-programming or other fix. thanks, Rich
>>
>>
>
> Uh, you might want to check that again. I left my spotlight plugged in on
> the back outlet for a long time, all the time, to recharge and keep a
> charge, and my battery after about a month, kept going down. A couple of
> times I had to jump start it.
>
> I took it to Toyo and they happily gave me a new battery. As I opened my
> back lid to get some stuff out while I was waiting in service, I noticed
> the spotlight laying in the pocket their, in the dark, and the little red
> light on.
> My keyes were in my hand.
> Slow trickle discharge.
>
> Oh well, a new battery. No charge,,,,,get it? no charge? He he
>

I believe that the Sienna's accessory outlet is on a timer, where it stays
hot for a few minutes after the ignition is turned off. See if the outlet
is hot 10 or 15 minutes later.
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Ray O
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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> To be fair to the automakers, they do worry about being sued.
>
> What do you suppose some numbnut would do if he left something
> connected, and it overheated and caught the car on fire? The idiot
> would blame the automaker for not making the power source go cold
> when the vehicle was unattended.

Various manufacturer's have different ideas about this. My Fords all
have always live 12V power points. My Nissan has one always live and
two that are switched. A friend with a Buick discovered that you could
change the switched outlet into an always live outlet by moving a fuse
(not documented inthe owner's manual, but it was documented in the
service manual).

Ed
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Ray O wrote:
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>> "rich" <rich99sue.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net>
>> scribblednews:ia0zj.11649$Ru4.11516@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net:
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>>> I love my 07 Sienna van...but....the interior 12 volt outlets go
>>> off when the key goes off.
>>>
>>> I know the reason ( to prevent battery run down if something is plugged
>>> in)...but...I would far rather take a chance on leaving something
>>> plugged in and running down the battery..over..having my Garmin GPS and
>>> my external XP radio go dead EVERY single time I jump out of the car for
>>> a few minutes. The battery back-up in each of those devices doesn't last
>>> long enough.
>>>
>>> Any ideas or suggestions appreciated. I did read the manual but
>>> couldn't find any re-programming or other fix. thanks, Rich
>>>
>>>
>> Uh, you might want to check that again. I left my spotlight plugged in on
>> the back outlet for a long time, all the time, to recharge and keep a
>> charge, and my battery after about a month, kept going down. A couple of
>> times I had to jump start it.
>>
>> I took it to Toyo and they happily gave me a new battery. As I opened my
>> back lid to get some stuff out while I was waiting in service, I noticed
>> the spotlight laying in the pocket their, in the dark, and the little red
>> light on.
>> My keyes were in my hand.
>> Slow trickle discharge.
>>
>> Oh well, a new battery. No charge,,,,,get it? no charge? He he
>>
>
> I believe that the Sienna's accessory outlet is on a timer, where it stays
> hot for a few minutes after the ignition is turned off. See if the outlet
> is hot 10 or 15 minutes later.

There are instructions to make it always-on at
"http://www.siennaclub.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=16692" at least for
the 2007.
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:37:04 -0400, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3 RemoveThis @removemindspring.com> wrote:

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>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> To be fair to the automakers, they do worry about being sued.
>>
>> What do you suppose some numbnut would do if he left something
>> connected, and it overheated and caught the car on fire? The idiot
>> would blame the automaker for not making the power source go cold
>> when the vehicle was unattended.
>
>Various manufacturer's have different ideas about this. My Fords all
>have always live 12V power points. My Nissan has one always live and
>two that are switched. A friend with a Buick discovered that you could
>change the switched outlet into an always live outlet by moving a fuse
>(not documented inthe owner's manual, but it was documented in the
>service manual).
>
>Ed

My experience is that American brand cars and trucks have 'hot' 12
outlets while off-shore brands have switched outlets. The distinction
is starting to blur a bit with off-shore cars being branded and
marketed as American brands. I don't think the reason for switched
outlets because of legal worries, I think it is more along the lines
of corporate culture.
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> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:37:04 -0400, "C. E. White"
> <cewhite3.RemoveThis@removemindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>
>>> To be fair to the automakers, they do worry about being sued.
>>>
>>> What do you suppose some numbnut would do if he left something
>>> connected, and it overheated and caught the car on fire? The idiot
>>> would blame the automaker for not making the power source go cold
>>> when the vehicle was unattended.
>>
>>Various manufacturer's have different ideas about this. My Fords all
>>have always live 12V power points. My Nissan has one always live and
>>two that are switched. A friend with a Buick discovered that you
>>could
>>change the switched outlet into an always live outlet by moving a
>>fuse
>>(not documented inthe owner's manual, but it was documented in the
>>service manual).
>>
>>Ed
>
> My experience is that American brand cars and trucks have 'hot' 12
> outlets while off-shore brands have switched outlets. The
> distinction
> is starting to blur a bit with off-shore cars being branded and
> marketed as American brands. I don't think the reason for switched
> outlets because of legal worries, I think it is more along the lines
> of corporate culture.

Well my SO's Chrysler Van had switched outlets. And so did my friends
Buick, as delivered, but it could be changed. For sure the Toyota
RAV4s have switched outlets. VW Jettas have always live outlets. I
don't think you can say this is a domestic/import related choice, more
just corporate culture as you also suggested. It does seem to me years
ago, when power points were called cigarette lighters, they were
mostly always live - but it was a long time ago.....

Ed
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