106 rear brakes etc

Chinese Cracker wrote:
> only_me wrote:
>> Handbrake has given up the ghost, lever comes all the way, yet
>> almost no friction to rear wheels.
>>
>> Took it to one of the quick fit tyre/brakes places who quoted £65
>> for new shoes (fine) , but once left with them they decided it would
>> be £230+ since cylinders had gone (they said) , convinced they just
>> didn't want the job, quicker profits to be made on other jobs that
>> day? Also convinced they never even looked inside the drums due to the
>> hub nut issue
>>
>> Can anyone tell me the torque setting for the hub nuts and the
>> spanner/socket size reqd (and how long a bar I'm going to need to
>> get them undone ) - no mention of this in Haynes man that I can
>> find Going to have to have a go myself
>> thx
>>
>
> To be fair to KF how coudl they know the cylinders were shagged until
> the hubs were off? If they are shagged then you are not going to put
> the car right by bodging it as you suggest.

Where does it say he's going to bodge it?

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Malc

"It's ok Henry, it goes from zero to nought"
Lucy Richley - Senior Physicist
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only_me wrote:
> Handbrake has given up the ghost, lever comes all the way, yet almost
> no friction to rear wheels.
>
> Took it to one of the quick fit tyre/brakes places who quoted £65 for
> new shoes (fine) , but once left with them they decided it would be
> £230+ since cylinders had gone (they said) , convinced they just
> didn't want the job, quicker profits to be made on other jobs that
> day?
>
> Also convinced they never even looked inside the drums due to the hub
> nut issue
>
> Can anyone tell me the torque setting for the hub nuts and the
> spanner/socket size reqd (and how long a bar I'm going to need to get
> them undone ) - no mention of this in Haynes man that I can find
>
> Going to have to have a go myself
> thx

Well in my Haynes manual on page 9-2 it says Rear Hub nut 103lb/ft and to
use a new nut. IIRC it's probably 32mm but why not just take the wheel off
and measure it?

--
Malc

"It's ok Henry, it goes from zero to nought"
Lucy Richley - Senior Physicist
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Very Easy job todo, i am always doing them, and the nut is a
32mm. unless some has fitted a diff nut,always fit a new nut.do it up at
100lbs.
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If your local to me i will lend you the bar and socket to do the job at
no charge,or i could help you do the job?
chris addlestone surrey.
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Malc wrote:
> Chinese Cracker wrote:
>> only_me wrote:
>>> Handbrake has given up the ghost, lever comes all the way, yet
>>> almost no friction to rear wheels.
>>>
>>> Took it to one of the quick fit tyre/brakes places who quoted £65
>>> for new shoes (fine) , but once left with them they decided it would
>>> be £230+ since cylinders had gone (they said) , convinced they just
>>> didn't want the job, quicker profits to be made on other jobs that
>>> day? Also convinced they never even looked inside the drums due to the
>>> hub nut issue
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me the torque setting for the hub nuts and the
>>> spanner/socket size reqd (and how long a bar I'm going to need to
>>> get them undone ) - no mention of this in Haynes man that I can
>>> find Going to have to have a go myself
>>> thx
>>>
>> To be fair to KF how coudl they know the cylinders were shagged until
>> the hubs were off? If they are shagged then you are not going to put
>> the car right by bodging it as you suggest.
>
> Where does it say he's going to bodge it?
>

If it DOES want cylinders and he doesn't fit them it will be a bodged
job. Easy peasy.
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Thanks for all responses, and pointer to torque setting( yes its in my
manual too ! ).

Not looking to bodge it, just not happy with their pricing, which seemed
to be to price it for the worst case (and you know that would be the one
you would pay regardless)

Not sure how they could justify that price either ( online pricing : shoes
£17, pair of cylinders £30 )
If its £65 to change pads, changing cylinders at same time can only add 30
mins to the job at most, surely.

Anyway this if for my sons car which doesn't have much value left in it,
so whilst we want it to be safe, it needs to be cheap, sorry, cost
effective too.

If it need a cylinder then I'll probably fit one, although only need the
car for another 6/12 months

Chris, Thanks for the kind offer, in internet terms then yes we are
localish, reading/wokingham, plus I work near Heathrow.
if you want to email me your phone number, I may take you up on that, sure
you can work out what it is - cbartley.RemoveThis@no_hotmail_spam.com

Thanks
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"only_me" <cbartley.DeleteThis@no_hotmail_spam.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for all responses, and pointer to torque setting( yes its in my
> manual too ! ).
>
> Not looking to bodge it, just not happy with their pricing, which seemed
> to be to price it for the worst case (and you know that would be the one
> you would pay regardless)
>
> Not sure how they could justify that price either ( online pricing : shoes
> £17, pair of cylinders £30 )
> If its £65 to change pads, changing cylinders at same time can only add 30
> mins to the job at most, surely.
>
> Anyway this if for my sons car which doesn't have much value left in it,
> so whilst we want it to be safe, it needs to be cheap, sorry, cost
> effective too.
>
> If it need a cylinder then I'll probably fit one, although only need the
> car for another 6/12 months
>
> Chris, Thanks for the kind offer, in internet terms then yes we are
> localish, reading/wokingham, plus I work near Heathrow.
> if you want to email me your phone number, I may take you up on that, sure
> you can work out what it is - cbartley.DeleteThis@no_hotmail_spam.com
>
> Thanks
>
>
Can you see any wetness on the backing plate on either side when looking
from underneath? If not, the cylenders might well be OK. If they are
leaking, you must replace them, if they are not, leave well alone.
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Have you done your rear brakes plus cyls? so have a good look at the
rear wheels to see if you got fluid on the back plate and dripping down
on to the wheels.also is the fluid going down ?
chris addlestone surrey..
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