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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:15 pm
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my daughter just bought an 07 eclipse. traded in her 99 eclipse for it.
which she also bought new. she loves those eclipses. its a 5 speed 4
cyl like her 99 was. she always shifts at like 4000 rpm.to me that is a
little high. i shift at like 3000 rpm. she just kind of winds it out.
tried to get her to shift at like around 3000 rpm but she is just in the
habit of 4000 rpm. she doest even look at the tach just feels right to
her at around 4000 rpm. just wondering if you guys think that is too
high on a regular basis. her 99 was burning a little oil at 76000 miles
like 1 qt every 1500 miles or so. just wondering what you guys thought.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:55 pm
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Your kid is the better driver...You are shifting before the torque peak and
having to lug the motor back up.
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> my daughter just bought an 07 eclipse. traded in her 99 eclipse for it.
> which she also bought new. she loves those eclipses. its a 5 speed 4
> cyl like her 99 was. she always shifts at like 4000 rpm.to me that is a
> little high. i shift at like 3000 rpm. she just kind of winds it out.
> tried to get her to shift at like around 3000 rpm but she is just in the
> habit of 4000 rpm. she doest even look at the tach just feels right to
> her at around 4000 rpm. just wondering if you guys think that is too
> high on a regular basis. her 99 was burning a little oil at 76000 miles
> like 1 qt every 1500 miles or so. just wondering what you guys thought.
> thanks
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:55 pm
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"simpleton" <simpleton DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Your kid is the better driver...You are shifting before the torque peak
> and having to lug the motor back up.
The answer depends on the goal: Is it economy or acceleration/power?
Unless you are going up a steep grade at 3,000 RPM in my opinion you
shouldn't be overloading the engine.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:55 pm
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He's discussing a shift point.
If you shift before the torque peak, the engine speed falls below maximum
torque and has to labor in a very un-economical fashion to accellerate.
A great many of us have found that our Eclipses respond to being briskly
shifted and that granny shifting consumes more fuel.
I can do 22 city 30 highway in a 450whp all wheel drive car this way.
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> "simpleton" <simpleton.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Your kid is the better driver...You are shifting before the torque peak
>> and having to lug the motor back up.
>
> The answer depends on the goal: Is it economy or acceleration/power?
>
> Unless you are going up a steep grade at 3,000 RPM in my opinion you
> shouldn't be overloading the engine.
>
> Bob
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:55 am
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This is pointless in regard to Mitsu engines.
These units exhibit extreme wear & tear above 3000 rpm
3000 rpm should be strictly observed when driving any Mitsu.
One of the first racing scenes in the movie Fast&Furious shows well
what happens if you do not observe 3000 rpm limit in Mitsu
You go above 3000 rpm in Mitsu - just once for more than a minute - and lucky you if
the alternator belt is all what has to be replaced !
2000 rpm is optimal for these cars.
"simpleton" <simpleton DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message news:aZSdnehX3_3pZVLZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com...
> He's discussing a shift point.
>
> If you shift before the torque peak, the engine speed falls below maximum torque and has to labor in a very un-economical fashion
> to accellerate.
> A great many of us have found that our Eclipses respond to being briskly shifted and that granny shifting consumes more fuel.
> I can do 22 city 30 highway in a 450whp all wheel drive car this way.
>
> "Bob Shuman" <no_spam_thx DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:jKRzg.373$%j7.199@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
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>> "simpleton" <simpleton DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message news:pIKdnX1VT4U1WFPZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Your kid is the better driver...You are shifting before the torque peak and having to lug the motor back up.
>>
>> The answer depends on the goal: Is it economy or acceleration/power?
>>
>> Unless you are going up a steep grade at 3,000 RPM in my opinion you shouldn't be overloading the engine.
>>
>> Bob
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:18 pm
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"MXW" <mxw DeleteThis @nowhere.here> wrote in message
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> One of the first racing scenes in the movie Fast&Furious shows well
> what happens if you do not observe 3000 rpm limit in Mitsu
I smell troll ... and of course Fast&Furious is based on reality.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:55 pm
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MXW ha scritto:
> This is pointless in regard to Mitsu engines.
> These units exhibit extreme wear & tear above 3000 rpm
> 3000 rpm should be strictly observed when driving any Mitsu.
> One of the first racing scenes in the movie Fast&Furious shows well
> what happens if you do not observe 3000 rpm limit in Mitsu
> You go above 3000 rpm in Mitsu - just once for more than a minute - and lucky you if
> the alternator belt is all what has to be replaced !
> 2000 rpm is optimal for these cars.
well I run usually my 1991 Eclipse at 4500 rpm in the highway for 2
hours without the minimum disease.. and I find that the top quality
drive is between 3000 and 4500 rpm-. 4500-6700 is really fast & furious,
but too dangerous in normal conditions.. >> Stay informed about: 07 eclipse |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:38 am
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On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:18:41 -0400, Stewart DIBBS wrote:
> "MXW" <mxw.TakeThisOut@nowhere.here> wrote in message
.... and of course Fast&Furious is based on reality.
Don't like the sound of an OTA BOV on a 420A?.. I almost walked out of the
theatre when I saw that.. Or the fact that the Eclipse was equipped with a
7-speed transaxle in the race.
Classic... LOL
ech (Just sold my '95 GS.. Hoping to buy a 2gen 2nd edition GST or GSX) >> Stay informed about: 07 eclipse |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:54 am
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looks like the jury is still out on this one. it says in the book that
peak
torque is 4000 rpm. will tell my daughter 4000 rpm is a fine shift
point. think most of you agree it shouldn't hurt the engine.mxw says
these engines should not be run over 2000rpm. cant go with that one
since 2000 rpm in 5th gear is 46 mph. might get run over on the
interstate lol. i like those 5 speeds. fun to drive. not the same as my
old 57 ford fairlane with the 3 speed on the column. bet you guys don't
remember any of those. thanks to all >> Stay informed about: 07 eclipse |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:18 pm
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MXW wrote:
> I just damaged another alt. belt. Wanted be first on the green light.
> I got Dayco this time.
At least I'm not the only one to lose an alt belt while flogging one of
these cars. I guess 130 on the interstate will do that LOL!!
Regards,
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:29 pm
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Bwahaha! This one hits 11,000 rpm every weekend......
http://www.shepracing.com/racecar.php
The F&F reference was classic!
"MXW" <mxw.TakeThisOut@nowhere.here> wrote in message
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> This is pointless in regard to Mitsu engines.
> These units exhibit extreme wear & tear above 3000 rpm
> 3000 rpm should be strictly observed when driving any Mitsu.
> One of the first racing scenes in the movie Fast&Furious shows well
> what happens if you do not observe 3000 rpm limit in Mitsu
> You go above 3000 rpm in Mitsu - just once for more than a minute - and
> lucky you if
> the alternator belt is all what has to be replaced !
> 2000 rpm is optimal for these cars.
>
>
> "simpleton" <simpleton.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:aZSdnehX3_3pZVLZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> He's discussing a shift point.
>>
>> If you shift before the torque peak, the engine speed falls below maximum
>> torque and has to labor in a very un-economical fashion to accellerate.
>> A great many of us have found that our Eclipses respond to being briskly
>> shifted and that granny shifting consumes more fuel.
>> I can do 22 city 30 highway in a 450whp all wheel drive car this way.
>>
>> "Bob Shuman" <no_spam_thx.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:jKRzg.373$%j7.199@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>>>
>>> "simpleton" <simpleton.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:pIKdnX1VT4U1WFPZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Your kid is the better driver...You are shifting before the torque peak
>>>> and having to lug the motor back up.
>>>
>>> The answer depends on the goal: Is it economy or acceleration/power?
>>>
>>> Unless you are going up a steep grade at 3,000 RPM in my opinion you
>>> shouldn't be overloading the engine.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:29 pm
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I just damaged another alt. belt. Wanted be first on the green light.
I got Dayco this time.
"simpleton" <simpleton RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message news:EeydnT17JO7XlkzZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Bwahaha! This one hits 11,000 rpm every weekend......
> http://www.shepracing.com/racecar.php
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> The F&F reference was classic!
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>
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> "MXW" <mxw RemoveThis @nowhere.here> wrote in message news:eaqcko$e55$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
>> This is pointless in regard to Mitsu engines.
>> These units exhibit extreme wear & tear above 3000 rpm
>> 3000 rpm should be strictly observed when driving any Mitsu.
>> One of the first racing scenes in the movie Fast&Furious shows well
>> what happens if you do not observe 3000 rpm limit in Mitsu
>> You go above 3000 rpm in Mitsu - just once for more than a minute - and lucky you if
>> the alternator belt is all what has to be replaced !
>> 2000 rpm is optimal for these cars.
>>
>>
>> "simpleton" <simpleton RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message news:aZSdnehX3_3pZVLZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> He's discussing a shift point.
>>>
>>> If you shift before the torque peak, the engine speed falls below maximum torque and has to labor in a very un-economical
>>> fashion to accellerate.
>>> A great many of us have found that our Eclipses respond to being briskly shifted and that granny shifting consumes more fuel.
>>> I can do 22 city 30 highway in a 450whp all wheel drive car this way.
>>>
>>> "Bob Shuman" <no_spam_thx RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:jKRzg.373$%j7.199@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
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>>>> "simpleton" <simpleton RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message news:pIKdnX1VT4U1WFPZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> Your kid is the better driver...You are shifting before the torque peak and having to lug the motor back up.
>>>>
>>>> The answer depends on the goal: Is it economy or acceleration/power?
>>>>
>>>> Unless you are going up a steep grade at 3,000 RPM in my opinion you shouldn't be overloading the engine.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:01 pm
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Dayco belts make an extra 15hp over stock belts!
WARNING! *Manifold Danger*
"MXW" <mxw DeleteThis @nowhere.here> wrote in message
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>I just damaged another alt. belt. Wanted be first on the green light.
> I got Dayco this time.
>
>
> "simpleton" <simpleton DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:EeydnT17JO7XlkzZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Bwahaha! This one hits 11,000 rpm every weekend......
>> http://www.shepracing.com/racecar.php
>>
>> The F&F reference was classic!
>>
>>
>>
>> "MXW" <mxw DeleteThis @nowhere.here> wrote in message
>> news:eaqcko$e55$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
>>> This is pointless in regard to Mitsu engines.
>>> These units exhibit extreme wear & tear above 3000 rpm
>>> 3000 rpm should be strictly observed when driving any Mitsu.
>>> One of the first racing scenes in the movie Fast&Furious shows well
>>> what happens if you do not observe 3000 rpm limit in Mitsu
>>> You go above 3000 rpm in Mitsu - just once for more than a minute - and
>>> lucky you if
>>> the alternator belt is all what has to be replaced !
>>> 2000 rpm is optimal for these cars.
>>>
>>>
>>> "simpleton" <simpleton DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:aZSdnehX3_3pZVLZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> He's discussing a shift point.
>>>>
>>>> If you shift before the torque peak, the engine speed falls below
>>>> maximum torque and has to labor in a very un-economical fashion to
>>>> accellerate.
>>>> A great many of us have found that our Eclipses respond to being
>>>> briskly shifted and that granny shifting consumes more fuel.
>>>> I can do 22 city 30 highway in a 450whp all wheel drive car this way.
>>>>
>>>> "Bob Shuman" <no_spam_thx DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:jKRzg.373$%j7.199@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "simpleton" <simpleton DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:pIKdnX1VT4U1WFPZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> Your kid is the better driver...You are shifting before the torque
>>>>>> peak and having to lug the motor back up.
>>>>>
>>>>> The answer depends on the goal: Is it economy or acceleration/power?
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless you are going up a steep grade at 3,000 RPM in my opinion you
>>>>> shouldn't be overloading the engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:01 pm
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If you do not believe I can send you sample after I race it over 3000 rpm
It is always alt. belt, ps and a/c are fine and if you google you can see that many people reported such flaw with 4G64 engine.
"simpleton" <simpleton.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Ve2dnf5htsFxgE_ZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Dayco belts make an extra 15hp over stock belts!
>
> WARNING! *Manifold Danger*
>
>
>
> "MXW" <mxw.DeleteThis@nowhere.here> wrote in message news:easu5t$kdo$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
>>I just damaged another alt. belt. Wanted be first on the green light.
>> I got Dayco this time.
>>
>>
>> "simpleton" <simpleton.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:EeydnT17JO7XlkzZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Bwahaha! This one hits 11,000 rpm every weekend......
>>> http://www.shepracing.com/racecar.php
>>>
>>> The F&F reference was classic!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "MXW" <mxw.DeleteThis@nowhere.here> wrote in message news:eaqcko$e55$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
>>>> This is pointless in regard to Mitsu engines.
>>>> These units exhibit extreme wear & tear above 3000 rpm
>>>> 3000 rpm should be strictly observed when driving any Mitsu.
>>>> One of the first racing scenes in the movie Fast&Furious shows well
>>>> what happens if you do not observe 3000 rpm limit in Mitsu
>>>> You go above 3000 rpm in Mitsu - just once for more than a minute - and lucky you if
>>>> the alternator belt is all what has to be replaced !
>>>> 2000 rpm is optimal for these cars.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "simpleton" <simpleton.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:aZSdnehX3_3pZVLZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> He's discussing a shift point.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you shift before the torque peak, the engine speed falls below maximum torque and has to labor in a very un-economical
>>>>> fashion to accellerate.
>>>>> A great many of us have found that our Eclipses respond to being briskly shifted and that granny shifting consumes more fuel.
>>>>> I can do 22 city 30 highway in a 450whp all wheel drive car this way.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bob Shuman" <no_spam_thx.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:jKRzg.373$%j7.199@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "simpleton" <simpleton.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:pIKdnX1VT4U1WFPZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>> Your kid is the better driver...You are shifting before the torque peak and having to lug the motor back up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The answer depends on the goal: Is it economy or acceleration/power?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless you are going up a steep grade at 3,000 RPM in my opinion you shouldn't be overloading the engine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:51 pm
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Take a look at the crank hub pulley.
Mitsubishi uses a two piece design: an inner cast hub and an outer pulley
section that are held together by a vulcanized rubber
center section. The rubber center section turns the piece into an effective
harmonic damper, lessening harmful rotational vibrations in the crankshaft.
While this unit works well, the rubber is prone to becoming brittle and
allowing the outer hub to separate. Belts falling off is a certain symptom
of failure.
The 4G64 is a rock solid motor.
"MXW" <mxw RemoveThis @nowhere.here> wrote in message
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> If you do not believe I can send you sample after I race it over 3000 rpm
> It is always alt. belt, ps and a/c are fine and if you google you can see
> that many people reported such flaw with 4G64 engine.
>
> "simpleton" <simpleton RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Ve2dnf5htsFxgE_ZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Dayco belts make an extra 15hp over stock belts!
>>
>> WARNING! *Manifold Danger*
>>
>>
>>
>> "MXW" <mxw RemoveThis @nowhere.here> wrote in message
>> news:easu5t$kdo$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
>>>I just damaged another alt. belt. Wanted be first on the green light.
>>> I got Dayco this time.
>>>
>>>
>>> "simpleton" <simpleton RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:EeydnT17JO7XlkzZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Bwahaha! This one hits 11,000 rpm every weekend......
>>>> http://www.shepracing.com/racecar.php
>>>>
>>>> The F&F reference was classic!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "MXW" <mxw RemoveThis @nowhere.here> wrote in message
>>>> news:eaqcko$e55$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
>>>>> This is pointless in regard to Mitsu engines.
>>>>> These units exhibit extreme wear & tear above 3000 rpm
>>>>> 3000 rpm should be strictly observed when driving any Mitsu.
>>>>> One of the first racing scenes in the movie Fast&Furious shows well
>>>>> what happens if you do not observe 3000 rpm limit in Mitsu
>>>>> You go above 3000 rpm in Mitsu - just once for more than a minute -
>>>>> and lucky you if
>>>>> the alternator belt is all what has to be replaced !
>>>>> 2000 rpm is optimal for these cars.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "simpleton" <simpleton RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:aZSdnehX3_3pZVLZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> He's discussing a shift point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you shift before the torque peak, the engine speed falls below
>>>>>> maximum torque and has to labor in a very un-economical fashion to
>>>>>> accellerate.
>>>>>> A great many of us have found that our Eclipses respond to being
>>>>>> briskly shifted and that granny shifting consumes more fuel.
>>>>>> I can do 22 city 30 highway in a 450whp all wheel drive car this way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bob Shuman" <no_spam_thx RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:jKRzg.373$%j7.199@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "simpleton" <simpleton RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:pIKdnX1VT4U1WFPZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>> Your kid is the better driver...You are shifting before the torque
>>>>>>>> peak and having to lug the motor back up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The answer depends on the goal: Is it economy or acceleration/power?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless you are going up a steep grade at 3,000 RPM in my opinion you
>>>>>>> shouldn't be overloading the engine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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