06 Sienna - Dead Battery -now what

See the battery manufacture, WBMA. Unless things changed since I'm out of
the business, most new car batteries have a prorated warranty, of at least
three yeara, by the manufacture



To my knowledge Ford is the only manufacture to warrants batteries and tires
for the life of the basic warranty. Others only warrant them at 100% for
12/12 WOF.





<mike.TakeThisOut@nosam.org> wrote in message

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> My 'new' 06 Sienna CE had been sitting unused for about 5 days - prior
> to that it was driven about 4 miles - after sitting idle for 5 days
> (In sunny LA, CA). This morning the battery was totally dead - no
> lights anywhere. Putting a 12 volt tester on the battery barely
> produced a glow. Put a charger on and lights started working. The
> rear door will not open. Guess there is no over-ride?
>
> The vehicle was purchased 5-2006. The battery date is 4-29-06.
>
> I intend to charge it for about 4 hours at 6 amp and see what works.
>
> Questions:
> Have or will the electronics be goofed up - so far?
> What if anything will happen when/ if I install a new battery.
>
> Any warranty on any of this? The vehicle is less than two years old.
>
> Is this perhaps a case of not driving it enough?
> In that case will a charge not cure the ills? Any electronic problems
> created so far?
>
> Just getting out the owner's manual.
> Thanks
>
> m
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m....TakeThisOut@nosam.org wrote:
>
>In the manual it says to disconnect the ground (-) connection before
>recharging with the battery in the car. WHY? Is this a big thing
>because I did no disconnecting - just clamped on and started charging.
>
It's nearly total insurance against damaging the electronics, rather
cheap insurance, although I don't see why the electronics aren't
protected enough to withstand anything short of household AC or
lightning.

Even if your battery is covered by the Toyota warranty, dealer prices
are often so high that it may be cheaper to buy a new battery at full
price elsewhere, like Costco or Walmart.
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<mike.RemoveThis@nosam.org> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 17:05:23 -0500, "Mike hunt" <mikehunt22.RemoveThis@lycos.com>
> wrote:
>
>>See the battery manufacture, WBMA. Unless things changed since I'm out of
>>the business, most new car batteries have a prorated warranty, of at least
>>three yeara, by the manufacture
>>
>>
>>
>>To my knowledge Ford is the only manufacture to warrants batteries and
>>tires
>>for the life of the basic warranty. Others only warrant them at 100% for
>>12/12 WOF.
>
> Reading the warranty - there appears to be NO exclusion for the
> battery???
> Would this be correct?
>
> In the manual it says to disconnect the ground (-) connection before
> recharging with the battery in the car. WHY? Is this a big thing
> because I did no disconnecting - just clamped on and started charging.
>

I believe that your battery is covered 36/36 for defects in materials or
workmanship. The battery will gradually discharge over time due to various
electronics in the vehicle, and if you put an ammeter on the vehicle right
after shutting it off, it will show fairly high discharge for 5 minutes or
so and then slow down. Short trips where the battery is not fully recharged
will gradually deplete the battery, especially if it is parked for a fairly
long period. If you do this, try to shut off the accessories that draw big
power like the rear defogger, seat heaters, etc.

The manual probably suggests disconnecting the negative terminal to avoid
sparks and possible damage to the electronic components in the vehicle from
the high charge rate that some chargers put out.

I'm not sure if this is the case with your Sienna, but some vehicles need to
be re-initialized after replacing the battery or deep draw-down on the
battery so things like sunroof, power sliding doors, etc. will work.
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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message news:z-> I'm
not sure if this is the case with your Sienna, but some vehicles need to
> be re-initialized after replacing the battery or deep draw-down on the
> battery so things like sunroof, power sliding doors, etc. will work.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)

Ray, I usually know what you're talking about, but I've never heard of
"re-initializing" a battery. How is it done?
Thanks.
>
>
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"mack" <mackerel DeleteThis @dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message news:z-> I'm
> not sure if this is the case with your Sienna, but some vehicles need to
>> be re-initialized after replacing the battery or deep draw-down on the
>> battery so things like sunroof, power sliding doors, etc. will work.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>
> Ray, I usually know what you're talking about, but I've never heard of
> "re-initializing" a battery. How is it done?
> Thanks.
>>

Actually, it is not the battery that needs to be re-initialized. The
electronic control modules that control some functions need to be
re-initialized. I think the process involves a "chicken dance" of turning
keys and pushing buttons and is outlined in technical service bulletins for
the models that need them. I'm too cheap to pay to access
techinfo.toyota.com to get the procedures for everyone else, and so far, I
haven't needed to access any info for my personal vehicles.
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"dbu" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.moc> wrote in message
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> In article <13qa1s7110g222a.DeleteThis@corp.supernews.com>,
> "mack" <mackerel.DeleteThis@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message news:z-> I'm
>> not sure if this is the case with your Sienna, but some vehicles need to
>> > be re-initialized after replacing the battery or deep draw-down on the
>> > battery so things like sunroof, power sliding doors, etc. will work.
>> > --
>> >
>> > Ray O
>> > (correct punctuation to reply)
>>
>> Ray, I usually know what you're talking about, but I've never heard of
>> "re-initializing" a battery. How is it done?
>> Thanks.
>> >
>> >
> You put a load on the battery and draw it's charge down. Then charge it
> up again. Sort of like old geezers and charging them up again, then
> drawing them down and charging them up. You should know about that
> stuff Mac, or maybe you forgot already.

That is more like load testing a battery. Re-initializing refers to the
ECU's that control some functions.
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On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:43:55 -0600, Ray O wrote:

>
> I'm not sure if this is the case with your Sienna, but some vehicles need
> to be re-initialized after replacing the battery or deep draw-down on the
> battery so things like sunroof, power sliding doors, etc. will work.


That's what I was going to suggest. After you remove the - terminal on my
tC, you have to reset the power windows and the sunroof...

The procedure will be in the Owner's Manual...
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On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:14:59 -0800, mack wrote:

>
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message news:z-> I'm
> not sure if this is the case with your Sienna, but some vehicles need to
>> be re-initialized after replacing the battery or deep draw-down on the
>> battery so things like sunroof, power sliding doors, etc. will work. --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>
> Ray, I usually know what you're talking about, but I've never heard of
> "re-initializing" a battery. How is it done? Thanks.

He said "some vehicles need to be re-initialized after replacing the
battery"

The power windows and sunroof on my tC have to be 'reinitialized' after
replacing or disconnecting the battery. The sunroof has two 'stop points',
one halfway and one with just the rear of the roof open. It loses it's
mind when you disconnect the power, and have to reset the points when you
reconnect the battery. This is what he means.

I'm betting that he's betting the doors have to be reset, too...which they
probably do...
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"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno RemoveThis @AE86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:14:59 -0800, mack wrote:
>
>>
>> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message news:z-> I'm
>> not sure if this is the case with your Sienna, but some vehicles need to
>>> be re-initialized after replacing the battery or deep draw-down on the
>>> battery so things like sunroof, power sliding doors, etc. will work. --
>>>
>>> Ray O
>>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>
>> Ray, I usually know what you're talking about, but I've never heard of
>> "re-initializing" a battery. How is it done? Thanks.
>
> He said "some vehicles need to be re-initialized after replacing the
> battery"
>
> The power windows and sunroof on my tC have to be 'reinitialized' after
> replacing or disconnecting the battery. The sunroof has two 'stop points',
> one halfway and one with just the rear of the roof open. It loses it's
> mind when you disconnect the power, and have to reset the points when you
> reconnect the battery. This is what he means.
>
> I'm betting that he's betting the doors have to be reset, too...which they
> probably do...
>

Yup, we're betting on the same thing!
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