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Since: May 21, 2007 Posts: 1219
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:51 am
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Dave L wrote:
> I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k
> miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was
> clear and not green. I've never had the battery drain and need a jump start
> before. I called the dealer to inquire today and was told if it went bad,
> they would cover for up to 3 years (the new car warranty). They said I
> could bring it in on Monday to test the battery, but I won't have time.
I'd go to the dealer and have them test it. If it is really bad (or, the
charging system), they'll tell you. Sounds like you have about a month
and a half. I bet you can arrange a time before the warranty expires.
Jeff
> Isn't this a little premature for a battery to start going bad? What is
> recommended if I decide to replace it? I used to always go Die Hard Gold
> for replacements but not sure if they're still the best or one of the better
> ones. Any ideas or suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> -Dave
>
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Since: May 21, 2007 Posts: 1219
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:52 am
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Dave L wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex RemoveThis @bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:A5edncWNOcLAyxfanZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> Dave L wrote:
>>> "bbtaco" <bbtaco RemoveThis @spamnot.com> wrote in message
>>> news:leidndQVweCTkxfanZ2dnUVZ_vyinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> "Brian Smith" <Halifax RemoveThis @NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
>>>> news:aTlij.4524$yQ1.1403@edtnps89...
>>>>> "Dave L" <davelieuREMOVEME RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:TfadnakgJJamNBTanZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost
>>>>>> 34k miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status
>>>>>> indicator was clear and not green. I've never had the battery drain
>>>>>> and need a jump start before. I called the dealer to inquire today
>>>>>> and was told if it went bad, they would cover for up to 3 years (the
>>>>>> new car warranty). They said I could bring it in on Monday to test the
>>>>>> battery, but I won't have time.
>>>>> Make the time, it's being replaced for you for no charge.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't this a little premature for a battery to start going bad? What
>>>>>> is recommended if I decide to replace it? I used to always go Die
>>>>>> Hard Gold for replacements but not sure if they're still the best or
>>>>>> one of the better ones. Any ideas or suggestions?
>>>>> Make the time, it's being replaced for you for no charge.
>>>>>
>>>> We just had the battery replaced free by our dealer with only 19,000
>>>> miles on our 2006 Accord. The car would start but seemed to turn over
>>>> slower than usual. The indicator window on it did not show any color in
>>>> it either. They tested it and I was told it was putting out much lower
>>>> cranking amps than it should.
>>> Yes, I'll make an appointment to the dealer. I just couldn't do it this
>>> Monday and hopefully they'll have a day where they have later
>>> appointments or a Saturday appointment when they can check this. The
>>> Accord always seemed to turn over slightly slower than my previous cars
>>> even when it was new. It was nothing major, and even now it's the same.
>>> This happens when I let it sit overnight or after work.
>>>
>>> My only concern is if they say nothing is actually wrong with it and the
>>> battery is just getting old at 2-1/2 years old!
>>>
>>
>> you don't say where you live - if it's phoenix, that battery life will not
>> be unusual.
>
> Sorry - I'm in Maryland.
Don't be sorry. It could be worse, like Long Island or Washington, DC.
Jeff
> -Dave
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Since: May 21, 2007 Posts: 1219
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:56 am
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Howard wrote:
>> That is the case if you buy it. Keep in mind that if your dealer
>> replaces your batttery the replacement you get will only be covered
>> for the balance of your new car 3 year/36,000mile warranty.
>
> WRONG! I apologize. What I wrote is true for most any warranty replaced
> part EXCEPT batteries.
> Honda Replacement Part batteries used under the New Car Limited Warranty
> are covered by the Honda Genuine Replacement Battery Warranty (100-months).
Most replacement batteries are total covered for a time (like 3 years)
and are prorated after that (so if it fails after say 50 months, you
have to pay 1/2). 100 months for a battery is still a long time: over 8
years. >> Stay informed about: '05 Accord Battery |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:41 am
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Dave L wrote:
> I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k
> miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was
> clear and not green. I've never had the battery drain and need a jump start
> before. I called the dealer to inquire today and was told if it went bad,
> they would cover for up to 3 years (the new car warranty). They said I
> could bring it in on Monday to test the battery, but I won't have time.
>
> Isn't this a little premature for a battery to start going bad? What is
> recommended if I decide to replace it? I used to always go Die Hard Gold
> for replacements but not sure if they're still the best or one of the better
> ones. Any ideas or suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> -Dave
>
>
I hate to break it to you, but when I purchased my 2007 Accord in
February, they had to replace the battery BEFORE I took delivery of the
car! Batteries go bad and some will last longer whereas others will die
a horrible death way sooner than the warranty. >> Stay informed about: '05 Accord Battery |
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:11 pm
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:56:14 GMT, Jeff <kidsdoc2000.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Howard wrote:
>>> That is the case if you buy it. Keep in mind that if your dealer
>>> replaces your batttery the replacement you get will only be covered
>>> for the balance of your new car 3 year/36,000mile warranty.
>>
>> WRONG! I apologize. What I wrote is true for most any warranty replaced
>> part EXCEPT batteries.
>> Honda Replacement Part batteries used under the New Car Limited Warranty
>> are covered by the Honda Genuine Replacement Battery Warranty (100-months).
>
>Most replacement batteries are total covered for a time (like 3 years)
>and are prorated after that (so if it fails after say 50 months, you
>have to pay 1/2). 100 months for a battery is still a long time: over 8
>years.
I believe you are mistaken. Batteries are usually prorated within the
warantee period. Outside the "50 month" you get squat. >> Stay informed about: '05 Accord Battery |
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Since: May 21, 2007 Posts: 1219
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:44 pm
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JRL wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:56:14 GMT, Jeff <kidsdoc2000.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Howard wrote:
>>>> That is the case if you buy it. Keep in mind that if your dealer
>>>> replaces your batttery the replacement you get will only be covered
>>>> for the balance of your new car 3 year/36,000mile warranty.
>>> WRONG! I apologize. What I wrote is true for most any warranty replaced
>>> part EXCEPT batteries.
>>> Honda Replacement Part batteries used under the New Car Limited Warranty
>>> are covered by the Honda Genuine Replacement Battery Warranty (100-months).
>> Most replacement batteries are total covered for a time (like 3 years)
>> and are prorated after that (so if it fails after say 50 months, you
>> have to pay 1/2). 100 months for a battery is still a long time: over 8
>> years.
>
>
> I believe you are mistaken. Batteries are usually prorated within the
> warantee period. Outside the "50 month" you get squat.
I was not mistaken.
The warranty for batteries is typically a period where the seller will
replace a battery for free (if it is defective) followed by a period
where the battery is prorated (perhaps 3 years). After 3 years, to
determine the number of months left, subtract the number of months since
the battery was sold from the total warranty period (say 100 months).
Then divide this by the total warranty period.
If it is a 100-month prorated warranty, and you have 50 months left, you
will get 50/100 or 50% of the new battery covered. If you have 10 months
left, you will get 10/100 or 10% of the new battery covered. If you have
60 months left, you will get 60/100 or 60% covered.
So battery replacement is fully covered withing the full replacement
period and is prorated after that.
Another way to think of it is that a battery with a 100-month prorated
warranty that costs $80 is really a $0.80 per month battery. If you keep
the car forever, on average, you'll spend about $0.80 per month for the
battery. In real life, it doesn't work this way, because you rarely keep
a car forever (and, at any rate, the longest you can keep a car is
around 100 years, and after that, well, you won't be able to claim the
warranty anyway), but in theory, this is how it works out.
That is the way the automotive batteries are typically covered.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:31 pm
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dave L wrote:
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex.DeleteThis@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:A5edncWNOcLAyxfanZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>> Dave L wrote:
>>>> "bbtaco" <bbtaco.DeleteThis@spamnot.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:leidndQVweCTkxfanZ2dnUVZ_vyinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> "Brian Smith" <Halifax.DeleteThis@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
>>>>> news:aTlij.4524$yQ1.1403@edtnps89...
>>>>>> "Dave L" <davelieuREMOVEME.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:TfadnakgJJamNBTanZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>> I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost
>>>>>>> 34k miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status
>>>>>>> indicator was clear and not green. I've never had the battery drain
>>>>>>> and need a jump start before. I called the dealer to inquire today
>>>>>>> and was told if it went bad, they would cover for up to 3 years (the
>>>>>>> new car warranty). They said I could bring it in on Monday to test
>>>>>>> the battery, but I won't have time.
>>>>>> Make the time, it's being replaced for you for no charge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Isn't this a little premature for a battery to start going bad?
>>>>>>> What is recommended if I decide to replace it? I used to always go
>>>>>>> Die Hard Gold for replacements but not sure if they're still the
>>>>>>> best or one of the better ones. Any ideas or suggestions?
>>>>>> Make the time, it's being replaced for you for no charge.
>>>>>>
>>>>> We just had the battery replaced free by our dealer with only 19,000
>>>>> miles on our 2006 Accord. The car would start but seemed to turn over
>>>>> slower than usual. The indicator window on it did not show any color
>>>>> in it either. They tested it and I was told it was putting out much
>>>>> lower cranking amps than it should.
>>>> Yes, I'll make an appointment to the dealer. I just couldn't do it
>>>> this Monday and hopefully they'll have a day where they have later
>>>> appointments or a Saturday appointment when they can check this. The
>>>> Accord always seemed to turn over slightly slower than my previous cars
>>>> even when it was new. It was nothing major, and even now it's the
>>>> same. This happens when I let it sit overnight or after work.
>>>>
>>>> My only concern is if they say nothing is actually wrong with it and
>>>> the battery is just getting old at 2-1/2 years old!
>>>>
>>>
>>> you don't say where you live - if it's phoenix, that battery life will
>>> not be unusual.
>>
>> Sorry - I'm in Maryland.
>
> Don't be sorry. It could be worse, like Long Island or Washington, DC.
Hey - I'm less than an hour away from D.C..... Fun place to visit though!
-Dave
>
> Jeff
>
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:35 pm
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dave L wrote:
>> I have an '05 Accord LX manual purchased in August '05, with almost 34k
>> miles on it. When I checked the battery today the status indicator was
>> clear and not green. I've never had the battery drain and need a jump
>> start before. I called the dealer to inquire today and was told if it
>> went bad, they would cover for up to 3 years (the new car warranty).
>> They said I could bring it in on Monday to test the battery, but I won't
>> have time.
>
> I'd go to the dealer and have them test it. If it is really bad (or, the
> charging system), they'll tell you. Sounds like you have about a month and
> a half. I bet you can arrange a time before the warranty expires.
>
> Jeff
Appointment made for Saturday morning. Hope they don't tell me everything
is fine and it's still within spec...
-Dave
>> Isn't this a little premature for a battery to start going bad? What is
>> recommended if I decide to replace it? I used to always go Die Hard Gold
>> for replacements but not sure if they're still the best or one of the
>> better ones. Any ideas or suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Dave >> Stay informed about: '05 Accord Battery |
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:42 am
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"JRL" <lecloony.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:56:14 GMT, Jeff <kidsdoc2000.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Howard wrote:
>>>> That is the case if you buy it. Keep in mind that if your dealer
>>>> replaces your batttery the replacement you get will only be covered
>>>> for the balance of your new car 3 year/36,000mile warranty.
>>>
>>> WRONG! I apologize. What I wrote is true for most any warranty replaced
>>> part EXCEPT batteries.
>>> Honda Replacement Part batteries used under the New Car Limited Warranty
>>> are covered by the Honda Genuine Replacement Battery Warranty
>>> (100-months).
>>
>>Most replacement batteries are total covered for a time (like 3 years)
>>and are prorated after that (so if it fails after say 50 months, you
>>have to pay 1/2). 100 months for a battery is still a long time: over 8
>>years.
>
>
> I believe you are mistaken. Batteries are usually prorated within the
> warantee period. Outside the "50 month" you get squat.
I believe you are mistaken. A "Limited Lifetime Warranty", at least for
Sears Diehard Gold is . The first 36 months is a totally free replacement,
followed by prorated coverage, which is based on the percentage of use that
you have gotten from the battery. At least that was the warranty when I
worked there several years ago. BTW Sears Diehard Gold and Interstate are
both manufactured by Johnson Controls to specifications set by the retailer.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:00 am
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Dave L wrote:
<...>
> Hey - I'm less than an hour away from D.C..... Fun place to visit though!
I taught in Harlem, NYC, for over a year. Now it takes a lot to get me
upset.
It's been many years since I was to Wash., D.C., but I really enjoyed
the museums there.
Jeff
> -Dave
>> Jeff
>>
>>> -Dave
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:32 pm
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Dave L wrote:
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>>> My only concern is if they say nothing is actually wrong with it and the
>>> battery is just getting old at 2-1/2 years old!
>>
>> you don't say where you live - if it's phoenix, that battery life will not
>> be unusual.
>
> Sorry - I'm in Maryland.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:43 pm
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dave L wrote:
> <...>
>
>> Hey - I'm less than an hour away from D.C..... Fun place to visit
>> though!
>
> I taught in Harlem, NYC, for over a year. Now it takes a lot to get me
> upset.
I'll bet! I go up to NYC sometimes to visit relatives, but not in Harlem.
Never been there but always pictured it as a rough place. Then again I
thought the same of the Bronx until I was at a restaurant in a really nice
section of the Bronx. Forgot what it was called..
> It's been many years since I was to Wash., D.C., but I really enjoyed the
> museums there.
They are nice. I've always like the Air and Space Museum and the Natural
History Museum. Took my bike down there and rode with friends along the
Potomac, Georgetown and into D.C.
-Dave
> Jeff
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:44 pm
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"Tony Harding" <ToHard.DeleteThis@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> Dave L wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>>> My only concern is if they say nothing is actually wrong with it and
>>>> the battery is just getting old at 2-1/2 years old!
>>>
>>> you don't say where you live - if it's phoenix, that battery life will
>>> not be unusual.
>>
>> Sorry - I'm in Maryland.
>
> In that case it's all your fault.
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:45 pm
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"Dave and Trudy" <dtdodson DeleteThis @acsalaska.net> wrote in message
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> "JRL" <lecloony DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:56:14 GMT, Jeff <kidsdoc2000 DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Howard wrote:
>>>>> That is the case if you buy it. Keep in mind that if your dealer
>>>>> replaces your batttery the replacement you get will only be covered
>>>>> for the balance of your new car 3 year/36,000mile warranty.
>>>>
>>>> WRONG! I apologize. What I wrote is true for most any warranty replaced
>>>> part EXCEPT batteries.
>>>> Honda Replacement Part batteries used under the New Car Limited
>>>> Warranty
>>>> are covered by the Honda Genuine Replacement Battery Warranty
>>>> (100-months).
>>>
>>>Most replacement batteries are total covered for a time (like 3 years)
>>>and are prorated after that (so if it fails after say 50 months, you
>>>have to pay 1/2). 100 months for a battery is still a long time: over 8
>>>years.
>>
>>
>> I believe you are mistaken. Batteries are usually prorated within the
>> warantee period. Outside the "50 month" you get squat.
>
> I believe you are mistaken. A "Limited Lifetime Warranty", at least for
> Sears Diehard Gold is . The first 36 months is a totally free replacement,
> followed by prorated coverage, which is based on the percentage of use
> that you have gotten from the battery. At least that was the warranty when
> I worked there several years ago. BTW Sears Diehard Gold and Interstate
> are both manufactured by Johnson Controls to specifications set by the
> retailer.
>
> DaveD
I didn't know Interstate was also manufactured by Johnson Controls. I
remember Die Hard was, and they switched to Exide. Quality went down and
they went back to Johnson Controls...
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:15 am
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Dave L wrote:
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:AlVij.7280$Ue3.3904@trnddc07...
>> Dave L wrote:
>> <...>
>>
>>> Hey - I'm less than an hour away from D.C..... Fun place to visit
>>> though!
>> I taught in Harlem, NYC, for over a year. Now it takes a lot to get me
>> upset.
>
> I'll bet! I go up to NYC sometimes to visit relatives, but not in Harlem.
> Never been there but always pictured it as a rough place. Then again I
> thought the same of the Bronx until I was at a restaurant in a really nice
> section of the Bronx. Forgot what it was called..
Harlem is an up and coming community. It is being gentrified. Harlem and
parts of the Bronx are the closest communities in NYC to downtown
Manhattan that can be redeveloped into better housing. There are some
really nice areas of the Bronx. Harlem is turning into a nice shopping
district on 125th St., the main east-west road, where the Famous Appollo
theater is. A bunch of stores have moved in, including an H&M store (I
think a chain of clothing stores) & a Magic Johnson Theater. A Trader
Joes is coming, too (there's one in Union Square and one in Brooklyn
too). And there are some good schools there (some NYC dept. of ed
schools and some are charter schools) and some bad schools. In addition,
Columbia University is there and City College (the public college with
the most Nobles) is there as well. Sadly, the poor kids there are
treated as throw-away kids by the city when it comes to education (the
teachers' union doesn't do much to help either).
>> It's been many years since I was to Wash., D.C., but I really enjoyed the
>> museums there.
>
> They are nice. I've always like the Air and Space Museum and the Natural
> History Museum. Took my bike down there and rode with friends along the
> Potomac, Georgetown and into D.C.
In my college years, I went there every year or so. Maybe I will try the
bike thing sometime.
Jeff
> -Dave
>
>> Jeff
>>
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