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Okie

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:17 pm
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I am considering an '05 Accent GT with 5-speed. The "EPA" mileage
estimate is 33 highway which seemed low to me, especially since the
4-speed auto was rated at 35 mpg. My '01 Accent 1.5 5-speed was rated
at 35 hwy but gets 38-40 mpg. I was wondering if anyone here has an
'05 5-speed and what mileage you get?

Thanks,
Okie

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:13 pm
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Okie wrote:
> I am considering an '05 Accent GT with 5-speed. The "EPA" mileage
> estimate is 33 highway which seemed low to me, especially since the
> 4-speed auto was rated at 35 mpg. My '01 Accent 1.5 5-speed was rated
> at 35 hwy but gets 38-40 mpg. I was wondering if anyone here has an
> '05 5-speed and what mileage you get?
>
> Thanks,
> Okie

Okie: I also have the 1.5 5 speed and get the mileage you quoted. I
have always been amazed at how much lower the ratings were for the 1.6.
If I were you I would wait for the 2006. They will have a new engine
with variable valve timing and should get a substantial boost in MPG.
Regards, Bob

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:04 pm
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it has a bigger engine, 1.6 l
"Okie" <okie7597 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I am considering an '05 Accent GT with 5-speed. The "EPA" mileage
> estimate is 33 highway which seemed low to me, especially since the
> 4-speed auto was rated at 35 mpg. My '01 Accent 1.5 5-speed was rated
> at 35 hwy but gets 38-40 mpg. I was wondering if anyone here has an
> '05 5-speed and what mileage you get?
>
> Thanks,
> Okie
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:32 pm
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bobmendria DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:

> If I were you I would wait for the 2006. They will have a new engine
> with variable valve timing and should get a substantial boost in MPG.
> Regards, Bob

Only problem is, the '06 is UGLY!

Okie
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:41 pm
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Doesn't matter. As recently as the 2002 model, the Accent 1.6/5spd got
better EPA mileage figures than the 1.5/5spd. Either the EPA has
changed the way they measure mileage, or the 1.6 is not as good now.
Also doesn't make sense that the auto tranny should get better mileage,
especially since it has a higher drive ratio than the manual.

Okie
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:13 pm
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a buddy of mine has a 04 accent 5spd. He gets 23 around town and 28 on the freeway. so be it he is a lead foot, but I have yet to find a car that meets the EPA MPG except downhill on a freeway with a tail wind. then again how much of your driving is level track with a 150lb driver and no extra weight when it doesnt matter how fast you get upto speed. I got a new test they can try: Any freeway, any city in the USA between 6-8am and 4-6pm. then tell me the MPG and I might beleive it.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:55 am
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xmirage2kx wrote:
> "" wrote:
> > I am considering an '05 Accent GT with 5-speed. The "EPA"
> > mileage
> > estimate is 33 highway which seemed low to me, especially
> > since the
> > 4-speed auto was rated at 35 mpg. My '01 Accent 1.5 5-speed
> > was rated
> > at 35 hwy but gets 38-40 mpg. I was wondering if anyone here
> > has an
> > '05 5-speed and what mileage you get?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Okie
>
> a buddy of mine has a 04 accent 5spd. He gets 23 around town and 28 on
> the freeway. so be it he is a lead foot, but I have yet to find a car
> that meets the EPA MPG except downhill on a freeway with a tail wind.
> then again how much of your driving is level track with a 150lb driver
> and no extra weight when it doesnt matter how fast you get upto speed.
> I got a new test they can try: Any freeway, any city in the USA
> between 6-8am and 4-6pm. then tell me the MPG and I might beleive it.
>
This all seems rather odd considering that the larger, heavier Elantra
gets better gas mileage with a 2.0 liter engine. My '04 GT consistently
gets 34-35 mpg on the highway @65 mph and last week I averaged 36.2
(calculated, not the trip computer figure, which was 36.5) for a two-way
trip to Cape Cod and back. It would have been even higher, but a couple
of traffic jams knocked it down a half mpg or so. That's impressive for
a car the size and power of the EGT. The only changes I've made to
enhance the mileage are full synthetic engine oil (5W-30), synthetic
transmission oil (Redline MT-90), and running the stock tires at 36 psi
front/32 psi rear.

I would have thought that the Accent would get in the neighborhood of
38-40 highway mpg, with ease.
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jaaribare

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:55 am
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do u notice anydifference in the trans with the syn gear oil>?
its gets really cold here in winter and i been thinking about syn gear
oil...
"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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> xmirage2kx wrote:
>> "" wrote:
>> > I am considering an '05 Accent GT with 5-speed. The "EPA"
>> > mileage
>> > estimate is 33 highway which seemed low to me, especially
>> > since the
>> > 4-speed auto was rated at 35 mpg. My '01 Accent 1.5 5-speed
>> > was rated
>> > at 35 hwy but gets 38-40 mpg. I was wondering if anyone here
>> > has an
>> > '05 5-speed and what mileage you get?
>> > > Thanks,
>> > Okie
>>
>> a buddy of mine has a 04 accent 5spd. He gets 23 around town and 28 on
>> the freeway. so be it he is a lead foot, but I have yet to find a car
>> that meets the EPA MPG except downhill on a freeway with a tail wind.
>> then again how much of your driving is level track with a 150lb driver
>> and no extra weight when it doesnt matter how fast you get upto speed.
>> I got a new test they can try: Any freeway, any city in the USA
>> between 6-8am and 4-6pm. then tell me the MPG and I might beleive it.
>>
> This all seems rather odd considering that the larger, heavier Elantra
> gets better gas mileage with a 2.0 liter engine. My '04 GT consistently
> gets 34-35 mpg on the highway @65 mph and last week I averaged 36.2
> (calculated, not the trip computer figure, which was 36.5) for a two-way
> trip to Cape Cod and back. It would have been even higher, but a couple of
> traffic jams knocked it down a half mpg or so. That's impressive for a car
> the size and power of the EGT. The only changes I've made to enhance the
> mileage are full synthetic engine oil (5W-30), synthetic transmission oil
> (Redline MT-90), and running the stock tires at 36 psi front/32 psi rear.
>
> I would have thought that the Accent would get in the neighborhood of
> 38-40 highway mpg, with ease.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:37 pm
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alot has to do with the weight vs engine size on how many MPG you get. If you know any jeep guys they are a good example of this: a 2.4l wangler gets about 2mpg more than the 4.0l because the engine in the 2.4l has to work harder for the same results. I have often heard that the elantra gets better milage than the accent, especially on the hwy, thoe I beleive EPA estimates argue that fact.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:55 am
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Jody wrote:
> do u notice anydifference in the trans with the syn gear oil>?
> its gets really cold here in winter and i been thinking about syn gear
> oil...

That was the main reason I changed it. I live in NH, where it gets cold,
too. With the synthetic, the tranny oil doesn't thicken anywhere near as
much as with conventional oils. I would definitely recommend it for cold
climates. The one caveat is that you must use a GL-4 oil in the Hyundai
tranny. Do not use GL-5 or oils that claim to be GL-5/GL-4 compatible,
which are what you will find at most auto parts stores. Redline MT-90 is
GL-4 and Amsoil also makes a GL-4 oil, though I don't recall the name.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:55 pm
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ya it gets cold here, last jan was averageing -30, lowest was -45 f.
the lil accents a trooper though, she started with no block heater (wassnt
aware cord was broken) then i got it replaced after...
"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Jody wrote:
>> do u notice anydifference in the trans with the syn gear oil>?
>> its gets really cold here in winter and i been thinking about syn gear
>> oil...
>
> That was the main reason I changed it. I live in NH, where it gets cold,
> too. With the synthetic, the tranny oil doesn't thicken anywhere near as
> much as with conventional oils. I would definitely recommend it for cold
> climates. The one caveat is that you must use a GL-4 oil in the Hyundai
> tranny. Do not use GL-5 or oils that claim to be GL-5/GL-4 compatible,
> which are what you will find at most auto parts stores. Redline MT-90 is
> GL-4 and Amsoil also makes a GL-4 oil, though I don't recall the name.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:29 pm
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I ended up getting an Elantra GLS hatchback instead of the Accent. The
Accent GT rode much stiffer than my '01 Accent, to the point of being
uncomfortable. The deal I got on the Elantra was too good to pass up
-- $2200 more than the Accent, plus it had the moonroof and the
upgraded stereo. They had a nice Elantra GT but it was an automatic
and I desperately wanted a 5-speed. My first tankful of gas appears to
have gotten 35+ mpg Smile.

Okie



> This all seems rather odd considering that the larger, heavier Elantra
> gets better gas mileage with a 2.0 liter engine. My '04 GT consistently
> gets 34-35 mpg on the highway @65 mph and last week I averaged 36.2
> (calculated, not the trip computer figure, which was 36.5) for a two-way
> trip to Cape Cod and back. It would have been even higher, but a couple
> of traffic jams knocked it down a half mpg or so. That's impressive for
> a car the size and power of the EGT. The only changes I've made to
> enhance the mileage are full synthetic engine oil (5W-30), synthetic
> transmission oil (Redline MT-90), and running the stock tires at 36 psi
> front/32 psi rear.
>
> I would have thought that the Accent would get in the neighborhood of
> 38-40 highway mpg, with ease.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:55 am
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I Did the same math twice...have a blue 04 EGT & a red 05 EGT.
The EGT is in a sweet spot of Price, Performance & Features.
I bought 2..My mom got a 05 GLS,Bro got 04 GLS,Niece got a 05 GT all within
a space of 14 months bookended between our 2.

"Okie" <okie7597.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> I ended up getting an Elantra GLS hatchback instead of the Accent. The
> Accent GT rode much stiffer than my '01 Accent, to the point of being
> uncomfortable. The deal I got on the Elantra was too good to pass up
> -- $2200 more than the Accent, plus it had the moonroof and the
> upgraded stereo. They had a nice Elantra GT but it was an automatic
> and I desperately wanted a 5-speed. My first tankful of gas appears to
> have gotten 35+ mpg Smile.
>
> Okie
>
>
>
>> This all seems rather odd considering that the larger, heavier Elantra
>> gets better gas mileage with a 2.0 liter engine. My '04 GT consistently
>> gets 34-35 mpg on the highway @65 mph and last week I averaged 36.2
>> (calculated, not the trip computer figure, which was 36.5) for a two-way
>> trip to Cape Cod and back. It would have been even higher, but a couple
>> of traffic jams knocked it down a half mpg or so. That's impressive for
>> a car the size and power of the EGT. The only changes I've made to
>> enhance the mileage are full synthetic engine oil (5W-30), synthetic
>> transmission oil (Redline MT-90), and running the stock tires at 36 psi
>> front/32 psi rear.
>>
>> I would have thought that the Accent would get in the neighborhood of
>> 38-40 highway mpg, with ease.
>
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:55 am
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xmirage2kx wrote:
> "" wrote:
> > do u notice anydifference in the trans with the syn gear oil>?
> > its gets really cold here in winter and i been thinking about
> > syn gear
> > oil...
> > "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:h02Le.226$286.164@trndny09...
> > > xmirage2kx wrote:
> > >> "" wrote:
> > >> > I am considering an '05 Accent GT with 5-speed. The
> > "EPA"
> > >> > mileage
> > >> > estimate is 33 highway which seemed low to me,
> > especially
> > >> > since the
> > >> > 4-speed auto was rated at 35 mpg. My '01 Accent 1.5
> > 5-speed
> > >> > was rated
> > >> > at 35 hwy but gets 38-40 mpg. I was wondering if anyone
> > here
> > >> > has an
> > >> > '05 5-speed and what mileage you get?
> > >> > > Thanks,
> > >> > Okie
> > >>
> > >> a buddy of mine has a 04 accent 5spd. He gets 23 around
> > town and 28 on
> > >> the freeway. so be it he is a lead foot, but I have yet to
> > find a car
> > >> that meets the EPA MPG except downhill on a freeway with a
> > tail wind.
> > >> then again how much of your driving is level track with a
> > 150lb driver
> > >> and no extra weight when it doesnt matter how fast you get
> > upto speed.
> > >> I got a new test they can try: Any freeway, any city in the
> > USA
> > >> between 6-8am and 4-6pm. then tell me the MPG and I might
> > beleive it.
> > >>
> > > This all seems rather odd considering that the larger,
> > heavier Elantra
> > > gets better gas mileage with a 2.0 liter engine. My '04 GT
> > consistently
> > > gets 34-35 mpg on the highway @65 mph and last week I
> > averaged 36.2
> > > (calculated, not the trip computer figure, which was 36.5)
> > for a two-way
> > > trip to Cape Cod and back. It would have been even higher,
> > but a couple of
> > > traffic jams knocked it down a half mpg or so. That's
> > impressive for a car
> > > the size and power of the EGT. The only changes I've made to
> > enhance the
> > > mileage are full synthetic engine oil (5W-30), synthetic
> > transmission oil
> > > (Redline MT-90), and running the stock tires at 36 psi
> > front/32 psi rear.
> > >
> > > I would have thought that the Accent would get in the
> > neighborhood of
> > > 38-40 highway mpg, with ease.
>
> alot has to do with the weight vs engine size on how many MPG you get.
> If you know any jeep guys they are a good example of this: a 2.4l
> wangler gets about 2mpg more than the 4.0l because the engine in the
> 2.4l has to work harder for the same results. I have often heard that
> the elantra gets better milage than the accent, especially on the hwy,
> thoe I beleive EPA estimates argue that fact.

Unfortunately, that flies in the face of facts about engine efficiency.
Internal combustion engines are most efficient (horsepower produced for
a given amount of fuel) at wide open throttle, since that's when the
cylinders fill most efficiently. That's why overdrives increase fuel
mileage; they force the engine to run at lower RPMs, which requires a
larger throttle opening that increase efficiency. A smaller engine
"working harder" should be more efficient than a larger engine, not
less. If you look at vehicles that are available with multiple engines,
the smaller engines always get better fuel mileage.

In the case of Jeep, a lot of their engines are "dinosaurs" with some of
the lowest output for their size in the entire industry. This is
especially true of older models.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:44 am
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Brian Nystrom wrote:
xmirage2kx wrote:
> "" wrote:

Unfortunately, that flies in the face of facts about engine efficiency.
Internal combustion engines are most efficient (horsepower produced for
a given amount of fuel) at wide open throttle, since that's when the
cylinders fill most efficiently. That's why overdrives increase fuel
mileage; they force the engine to run at lower RPMs, which requires a
larger throttle opening that increase efficiency. A smaller engine
"working harder" should be more efficient than a larger engine, not
less. If you look at vehicles that are available with multiple engines,
the smaller engines always get better fuel mileage.

In the case of Jeep, a lot of their engines are "dinosaurs" with some of
the lowest output for their size in the entire industry. This is
especially true of older models.



Fair enough for the jeeps, but that only works when it is based strictly on the engine. In reality I could put a hamster in a wheel and have my car run off hamster power if everything was geared correctly. that would really save on gas...lol (remember 6th grade physics with the pullies) but the sad reality is we use the same (or very similar) gearing in all cars on the road today (especally in the same class). so it is very possible that you get better milage with a bigger engine. but since you can have 30 people behind 30 accents or just 1 and get 30 different MPG its kinda a mute point.
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