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burchett.scott

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Since: Oct 23, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:51 am
Post subject: 02 Passat 1.8t water in engine during heavy rain

Have any ideas for me? Recently during heavy rains my '02 Passat 1.8T
gets water in the crank case. When I start the car it produces a lot
of steam from the exhaust and will not run properly. This is the
second time in the last 3 months that this has happened. The first
time the dealer mechanics suggested vandalism that someone
intentionally put water in the engine. They changed the oil twice to
get out the excess liquid and sent me on my way.

The car has been parked at a 15 degree angle, nose up, in my driveway
during heavy rain events when this happens.

If anyone has any suggestions as to how the water is getting in to the
crank case it might save me a ton of time with the dealer.

Thanks in advance.

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news.wildblue.net

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:11 pm
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sounds like water drains in cowl are plugged up. As water rises it then gets
sucked in via the vacuum brake booster... and then into intake system. Ask
dealer to check for recalls. May get the P9 recall if in the USA!


wrote in message

> Have any ideas for me? Recently during heavy rains my '02 Passat 1.8T
> gets water in the crank case. When I start the car it produces a lot
> of steam from the exhaust and will not run properly. This is the
> second time in the last 3 months that this has happened. The first
> time the dealer mechanics suggested vandalism that someone
> intentionally put water in the engine. They changed the oil twice to
> get out the excess liquid and sent me on my way.
>
> The car has been parked at a 15 degree angle, nose up, in my driveway
> during heavy rain events when this happens.
>
> If anyone has any suggestions as to how the water is getting in to the
> crank case it might save me a ton of time with the dealer.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

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Neil - Usenet

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:46 pm
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wrote in message

> Have any ideas for me? Recently during heavy rains my '02 Passat 1.8T
> gets water in the crank case. When I start the car it produces a lot
> of steam from the exhaust and will not run properly. This is the
> second time in the last 3 months that this has happened. The first
> time the dealer mechanics suggested vandalism that someone
> intentionally put water in the engine. They changed the oil twice to
> get out the excess liquid and sent me on my way.
>
> The car has been parked at a 15 degree angle, nose up, in my driveway
> during heavy rain events when this happens.
>
> If anyone has any suggestions as to how the water is getting in to the
> crank case it might save me a ton of time with the dealer.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

2 thourghts/comments

1, do u smell oil while driving? this wud indicate a cover, like the oil cap
missing.

2, head gasket, nothing to do with rain.
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dave AKA vwdoc1

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:45 pm
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There are two passat groups on yahoo with some active members. They may
help provide you with some answers. Wink

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/vwpassat/join
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/passats/join

It is a little hard for me to imagine how that water is getting into that
engine.
Is the oil dipstick guide in good shape?

Does the water get in only when the vehicle is parked in that same location?

Have you cleaned out the drains in the tray under the windshield?
Also check the air filter housing for excessive leaves/debris that might
cause its drain to get clogged. That might cause your problem but the water
would have to fill up the air filter housing then enter the intake manifold
boot, into the intake & engine-past the valves and piston rings into the
crankcase.
I would have thought it should have caused some hydro-lock and it would have
to be a LOT of water!

Can't you park it downhill or get a car cover temporarily? Wink

I am curious about what you find!
good luck!
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)

wrote in message

> Have any ideas for me? Recently during heavy rains my '02 Passat 1.8T
> gets water in the crank case. When I start the car it produces a lot
> of steam from the exhaust and will not run properly. This is the
> second time in the last 3 months that this has happened. The first
> time the dealer mechanics suggested vandalism that someone
> intentionally put water in the engine. They changed the oil twice to
> get out the excess liquid and sent me on my way.
>
> The car has been parked at a 15 degree angle, nose up, in my driveway
> during heavy rain events when this happens.
>
> If anyone has any suggestions as to how the water is getting in to the
> crank case it might save me a ton of time with the dealer.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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Jim Behning

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:42 am
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The only time I ever "flooded" an engine was after or while I was
driving through a deep puddle. Maybe a foot deep. The fresh air intake
for the Rabbit was under water so it sucked up a lot of water into the
cylinders. I removed the spark plugs and water sprayed out of the
cylinders as I ran the starter. I do not recall if I checked the
dipstick for water in the crankcase. In any event I sprayed about
100psi from the air compressor in to each cylinder, replaced the spark
plugs, started the car and tried not to drive in really deep puddles
again.

I am with the others that you need to check for clogged drains in the
cowl and the air intake. But in my case some water in the intake
pretty much just stayed in the intake, cylinders and out the exhaust.
Not much migration in the crankcase that I recall. That much water
also messes up an air filter. You should inspect your air filter for
clues and damage.

Are you sure you have dry gas in the tank?

If you do not have water bans can you turn on the hose to simulate a
heavy rain? Start by making sure the drains in the firewall work.

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:45:36 -0500, "dave AKA vwdoc1"
wrote:

>There are two passat groups on yahoo with some active members. They may
>help provide you with some answers. Wink
>
>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/vwpassat/join
>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/passats/join
>
>It is a little hard for me to imagine how that water is getting into that
>engine.
>Is the oil dipstick guide in good shape?
>
>Does the water get in only when the vehicle is parked in that same location?
>
>Have you cleaned out the drains in the tray under the windshield?
>Also check the air filter housing for excessive leaves/debris that might
>cause its drain to get clogged. That might cause your problem but the water
>would have to fill up the air filter housing then enter the intake manifold
>boot, into the intake & engine-past the valves and piston rings into the
>crankcase.
>I would have thought it should have caused some hydro-lock and it would have
>to be a LOT of water!
>
>Can't you park it downhill or get a car cover temporarily? Wink
>
>I am curious about what you find!
>good luck!
>--
>later,
>dave
>(One out of many daves)
>
> wrote in message
>
>> Have any ideas for me? Recently during heavy rains my '02 Passat 1.8T
>> gets water in the crank case. When I start the car it produces a lot
>> of steam from the exhaust and will not run properly. This is the
>> second time in the last 3 months that this has happened. The first
>> time the dealer mechanics suggested vandalism that someone
>> intentionally put water in the engine. They changed the oil twice to
>> get out the excess liquid and sent me on my way.
>>
>> The car has been parked at a 15 degree angle, nose up, in my driveway
>> during heavy rain events when this happens.
>>
>> If anyone has any suggestions as to how the water is getting in to the
>> crank case it might save me a ton of time with the dealer.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>
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Joseph Meehan

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:47 am
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How do you know it is getting into the crank case?

Cold it be coming from the exhaust system?

wrote in message

> Have any ideas for me? Recently during heavy rains my '02 Passat 1.8T
> gets water in the crank case. When I start the car it produces a lot
> of steam from the exhaust and will not run properly. This is the
> second time in the last 3 months that this has happened. The first
> time the dealer mechanics suggested vandalism that someone
> intentionally put water in the engine. They changed the oil twice to
> get out the excess liquid and sent me on my way.
>
> The car has been parked at a 15 degree angle, nose up, in my driveway
> during heavy rain events when this happens.
>
> If anyone has any suggestions as to how the water is getting in to the
> crank case it might save me a ton of time with the dealer.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit
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burchett.scott

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:36 am
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On Oct 23, 9:51 am, wrote:
> Have any ideas for me? Recently during heavy rains my '02 Passat 1.8T
> gets water in the crank case. When I start the car it produces a lot
> of steam from the exhaust and will not run properly. This is the
> second time in the last 3 months that this has happened. The first
> time the dealer mechanics suggested vandalism that someone
> intentionally put water in the engine. They changed the oil twice to
> get out the excess liquid and sent me on my way.
>
> The car has been parked at a 15 degree angle, nose up, in my driveway
> during heavy rain events when this happens.
>
> If anyone has any suggestions as to how the water is getting in to the
> crank case it might save me a ton of time with the dealer.
>
> Thanks in advance.

and the winner is...

sounds like water drains in cowl are plugged up. As water rises it
then gets
sucked in via the vacuum brake booster... and then into intake
system. Ask
dealer to check for recalls. May get the P9 recall if in the USA!
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:54 pm
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OK.. now I'm ready to collect my winnings! What did I win????


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> On Oct 23, 9:51 am, wrote:
>> Have any ideas for me? Recently during heavy rains my '02 Passat 1.8T
>> gets water in the crank case. When I start the car it produces a lot
>> of steam from the exhaust and will not run properly. This is the
>> second time in the last 3 months that this has happened. The first
>> time the dealer mechanics suggested vandalism that someone
>> intentionally put water in the engine. They changed the oil twice to
>> get out the excess liquid and sent me on my way.
>>
>> The car has been parked at a 15 degree angle, nose up, in my driveway
>> during heavy rain events when this happens.
>>
>> If anyone has any suggestions as to how the water is getting in to the
>> crank case it might save me a ton of time with the dealer.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
> and the winner is...
>
> sounds like water drains in cowl are plugged up. As water rises it
> then gets
> sucked in via the vacuum brake booster... and then into intake
> system. Ask
> dealer to check for recalls. May get the P9 recall if in the USA!
>
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dave AKA vwdoc1

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:19 pm
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I would guess that Lost In Space wins the......................

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BTW I try to clean out all of these drains when I see debris, and I look
often!

"Lost In Space/Woodchuck" wrote in message

> OK.. now I'm ready to collect my winnings! What did I win????
>
>
> wrote in message
>
>> On Oct 23, 9:51 am, wrote:
>>> Have any ideas for me? Recently during heavy rains my '02 Passat 1.8T
>>> gets water in the crank case. When I start the car it produces a lot
>>> of steam from the exhaust and will not run properly. This is the
>>> second time in the last 3 months that this has happened. The first
>>> time the dealer mechanics suggested vandalism that someone
>>> intentionally put water in the engine. They changed the oil twice to
>>> get out the excess liquid and sent me on my way.
>>>
>>> The car has been parked at a 15 degree angle, nose up, in my driveway
>>> during heavy rain events when this happens.
>>>
>>> If anyone has any suggestions as to how the water is getting in to the
>>> crank case it might save me a ton of time with the dealer.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> and the winner is...
>>
>> sounds like water drains in cowl are plugged up. As water rises it
>> then gets
>> sucked in via the vacuum brake booster... and then into intake
>> system. Ask
>> dealer to check for recalls. May get the P9 recall if in the USA!
>>
>
>
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